Re: [Cz-L] Ringplatz Poster

From: Berti <>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:21:41 +0300
Reply-to: Berti <>

I generally enjoy Hardy's wit, but sometimes have to make an effort not to
respond to
his exaggerating ideas. This is one of sometimes.

1) The poster will most probably disappear some month after the 600

2) The Shevchenko stern look is primarily in the eye of the beholder.

3) If not for the trade agreement - who knows, our great-parents might not
have settled
in this town 450 years later.

4) I was, I think, the first to mention on this site Traian Popovici, in
relation to his bust
 being put up in Fundu Moldovei, and having known him personally and part of
his family
as good and helpful neighbors I enthusiastically endorsed Mimi's idea to do
similar in OUR TOWN. But if asked, with all due respect, I would not have
proposed to have
 one of his authorizations put up provisionally on the Ringplatz. Museum
yes, street no.
Permanent plaque on his house - yes, temporarily mention in anniversary -

5) Czernowitz is not at all famous , it is known to us who love it and may
be some hundreds of Germans who
look back at its culture and also at its Jewish heritage. I don't know
exactly about their feelings
but ours are about the time of our, or our parents' past. No fame in that.

6) True the Ukrainians had until the middle of the last century played
only a minor cultural and economic
role in the development of the town. But look at what they are doing now and
agree that it is primarily
 their right and obligo to give their festivities the direction they prefer.
Everybody knows this, and I hope Hardy might agree, too.

Let us all enjoy the half full glass,


Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: [Cz-L] Ringplatz Poster

> Ringplatz Poster.
> On the Czernowitz Ringplatz, on that enormous concrete wall behind
> the stern looking Shevchenko monument , a poster of giant dimension
> has been exposed. It is the first written document in which Czernowitz
> was mentioned. Hence its importance . It deals about a trade agreement
> between Alexandru the Good of Moldova and the Lemberg tradesmen.
> It is from October 1408 and hence we have the 600 Jubilee festivities
> soon.
> How nice and how historically significant.
> How important to the City.
> With all due respect, if asked, I would chose a different document
> as a poster.
> I would hang a poster of a Popovici Authorization issued to one
> Leibowitch Samuel ,wife Gitl and two children ,to be temporarily
> exempted from evacuation to Transnistria, in October 1941.
> Much more important than a trade agreement with the Lemberg
> tradesmen.
> Leibowitch and family stayed alive , left Czernowitz and
> settled in Baltimore. He was a taylor.
> All this, due to this authorization. He ,and others, kept the
> story alive. For the world to know.
> And Czernowitz today is famous ,not because of the Lemberg
> agreement, but for its Jews.
> Everybody knows this except the City administration. Hardy

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