Re: [Cz-L] The number of Jews saved by Traian Popovici

You write:
"The opposite; since I do not speak Ukrainian, when I took a taxi to the
cemetery, I showed the driver the map of the cemetery with the printed name.
Invariably, these strangers tried to communicate and show their sympathy."

  No wonder - taking Jews to the cemetery always made them jovial.
     Taking them back made them gloomy
Hardy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
To: "Anny Matar" <annymatar_at_gmail.com>; "HARDY BREIER" <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>
Cc: "Cornel Fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; "Czernowitz Genealogy and
History" <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] The number of Jews saved by Traian Popovici


> Miriam (Mimi) Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
>
> As to the number on the plaque, it will stay 19600, since this
> is the number given by an overwhelming majority of researchers.
> Is it the actual 100% correct number? Go to the literature, go
> to the archives, ask the survivors, study, research and if you prove
> otherwise, we'll have another plaque with the new number put up.
>
> Sweeping generalities are generally not true and this pertains to the
> present-day inhabitants of Chernivtsi, also to the Ukrainian people
> in general. Look at the number of people declared as "righteous gentiles"
> by Yad-Vashem and you will find that there are more Ukrainians so
> declared,
> than people of any other nation. I am very sensitive to Anti-Semitism.
> Yet in all my visits to Chernivtsi, I encountered none. Nor did I, in any
> of my correspondence with Chernivtsi city officials or residents. The
> opposite; since I do not speak Ukrainian, when I took a taxi to the
> cemetery, I showed the driver the map of the cemetery with the printed
> name.
> Invariably, these strangers tried to communicate and show their sympathy.
> All the problems I encountered in my negotiations abut the plaque,
> are due to various other factors. Currently in Chernivtsi there are
> plaques
> to Steinbarg, Altman, Sidi Tal, Josef Schmidt, Chargaff. The paving stones
> on the former Herrengasse include the name Czernowitz written in Yiddish.
> The local youths who joined the volunteers who worked at the cemetery,
> were
> except for one, all Ukrainians.
>
> Yes they used to call us derogatory names, and what did we call them?
> Have you forgotten?
>
> And what have the Ukrainians to do with the Palestinians? Amos Oz, or not?
> Our past history as Jews, whether as a nation or as individuals is sad and
> painful, but this is not justification for vilifying anyone who opposes
> our
> wishes.
>
> Mimi
>

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