Re: [Cz-L] Back from Cz...

Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:47:55 +0200
To: CZERNOWITZ-L <>, Charles Rosner <>

  Czernowitz is Ukrainean today because of the Molotov-Ribentropp
   pact. Why should they deny it ?
     They should put up memorials to Molotov. And Ribentropp too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rosner" <>
To: "Czernowitz Genealogy and History" <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:38 AM
Subject: [Cz-L] Back from Cz...

Hello everybody!
I was 3 full days in Cz, left Monday morning for Kiev and arrived back home=
two hours ago. The reason I couldn’t stay longer is that I promised=
daughter to be there for her 21st birthday on October 8th…
I quickly went through the Cz-List mails exchanged during the two last week=
and, although exhausted, I want you to know the following about Traian
Popovici’s plate – I’ll try to write a more detaile=
d “report” during the
I met successively with 5 members (2 of them being Jewish) of the city
council, which counts a total of 60 members. I know, Hardy, that’s =
only some
9 percent…
I also had an opportunity to visit the board room in the city hall where th=
portraits of previous mayors of the town are hanging on the walls: the last=
Jewish mayor of Cz is there, but TP’s portrait isn’t becaus=
e the 1941-44
period is considered by some extremist members of the council as a period o=
occupation. I’m told that the mayor himself wouldn’t object=
 to call TP a
“mayor” (but should those who were appointed after him duri=
ng this period
also appear?) and to include the Rumanian text on the plate, but it=
s a
question of majority in the council votes.
The plate was to be discussed today (Tuesday) during a council meeting and=
the five members I met said at the end of our discussions that they will
support the plate to be done according to our whishes (by the way, my mothe=
and I survived in the ghetto as clandestines) – so I gave them the =
argument: “You accept the 1918-1940 period of Rumanian rule. Theref=
ore, by
denying the legality of the Rumanian period 1941-44, you consider the
Ribbentrop-Molotov pact as legal and valid. Is that what you want?”=
 I know
that such an argument wouldn’t convince the real extremists in the =
but it might slightly influence some of those who hesitate and are to weak=
to take position. Anyway, I prefer to have good surprises rather than bad=
ones, and therefore I do not expect them to agree to the title “may=
or” nor
to the Rumanian text… but maybe…?
Another point is that, at an official reception, I asked the Rabbi (forgot=
his name; he came with a streymel on his head, a long black coat, etc.) how=
many Jews there are in Cz: 1000, he said. Other people (Jews and Goys) told=
me figures between 2000 and 3000, but they confirmed that there are about 1=
different organizations fighting each other: this explains why the Jewish=
representation in Cz is so weak… Pity!
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