RE: [Cz-L] Honor in Czernowitz.

Hardy...in the fencing societies they did use rapiers...but not in the
Burschenschaften. The fencing lot did not encourage duels but while not
legal the Burschenschaft looked the other way.A rapier is a stabbing weapon
if used in earnest and was not the recommended way to aquire a
Schmiss..instead of a cut that resulted in a good scar you were more likely
to have a hole in your cheek.Not the purpose of the exercise! If you go on
Google and put in "Student dueling societies in Austria-Hungary" and then go
to the 3rd or 4th entry "Men and Violence" by Ute Frevent you will read a
very good dissertation which shows the progression from rapiers used in
earnest to sabers. Finally,I would rather use an AK-47 with fixed
bayonet...more choice of winning method! Cornel

-----Original Message-----
From: HARDY BREIER [mailto:HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:23 AM
To: Cornel Fleming; 'CZERNOWITZ-L'
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Honor in Czernowitz.

Cornel ,
  The weapon used in the Mensur ,academic fencing ,was
  the Korbschlaeger which was a Degen of the rapier family of weapons.
  Next time you challenge me it will end in a duel at Horecea.
   Be it cutting , pointed or saw - edge blade.
Hardy
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