Re: [Cz-L] Satu Mare (Satmar/Szatmar)Jewish records

Nice going Jerome! That's a terrific post.

I'm a subscriber to all these lists and sent that to our JGS of Montreal
mailing list. When I was at the LA conference 2 weeks ago, I saw
Brooke speak on this. Then I gave Bruce's Bukovina update.
The RomaniaSIG (special interest group meeting.

Merlika

----- Original Message -----
From: "jerome schatten" <romers_at_shaw.ca>
To: "czernowitz-L" <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: [Cz-L] Satu Mare (Satmar/Szatmar)Jewish records

> This from the JewishGen Digest Tues. Aug. 03, 2010. I thought it may be
> of interest to some.
> jerome
> =================================
>
>
> Subject: Satu Mare (Satmar/Szatmar)Jewish records - late 19th C vital
> records from Romanian National Archives
> From: Asparagirl <asparagirl_at_dca.net>
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:22:29 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> One of the most difficult things about doing Jewish genealogical
> research on towns
> that are now located in Romania is that it is often not known *what* has
> survived,
> much less how to obtain it. Thankfully, those informational "black
> holes" are now
> starting to be resolved with Romania's new and more open archives access
> law. The
> following is a list of pre-1896 Jewish records (that is, vital records
> maintained
> by the local Jewish communities, rather than the post-1896 standardized
> civil
> records that were not separated out on the basis of religion) known to
> have
> survived for the formerly-Hungarian and currently-Romanian county of
> Satmar /
> Szatmar / Satu Mare.
>
> This list was prepared by researcher Beth Long, who was at the IAJGS
> conference in
> Los Angeles last month and who lives in Budapest, Hungary. It is based
> upon the
> Satu Mare archives' own list of what religious records books they have
> on file.
> Please note that this list is probably incomplete, as my own research
> into the
> Maramaros /Maramures county record books (the country right next door to
> Satu Mare)
> has shown that many more towns were included in other books that were
> not in the
> index, and that sometimes extra years would turn up, too.
>
> It is likely that the ten vital records books for the actual city of
> Satu Mare hold
> information and records for many of the little communities in the area,
> too. Beth
> has obtained digital photographs of all ten of those books (yes, this is
> permitted
> under the new Romanian archives rules!), but none of the other books
> yet. If you
> would like to speak to her about obtaining those records, please contact
> me and I
> will pass along her e-mail address to you. Hopefully, people will
> consider
> transcribing the information in those books for inclusion in the
> Hungarian and/or
> Romanian databases hosted at JewishGen, as is currently being done for
> Maramaros/Maramures county.
>
> I am posting this list so that at least the mailing list archives will
> hold this
> information indefinitely for people who may be researching these towns.
> This list
> has the modern Romanian names of the towns, not the old Hungarian or
> Yiddish
> versions of the town names. The location-based search engine on the
> front page of
> JewishGen.org may be helpful in finding out the Romanian names of the
> towns you
> seek, if you don't know it. Romanian accent/diacritical marks have also
> been left
> off the town names in this list, and it's also possible that a
> misspelling or two
> may have crept into the list. Finally, this list is for towns that are
> currently
> located in Satu-Mare county; however, a few of these towns used to be in
> other
> nearby counties (such as Maramaros/Maramures) before the borders were
> redrawn in
> the twentieth century.
>
> * Pre-1896 Jewish vital records known to have survived for
> Satmar/Szatmar/Satu Mare
> county: *
> Andrid: (unknown type of records) - 1868-85
> Calinesti: B - 1879, 1893 / M - 1877, 1893
> Caraseu: B - 1867-77, 1889 / M - 1899 / D - 1876-77, 1879
> Cered: B - 1865, 1877
> Craiderelt: B - 1876, 1878 / D - 1876
> Culciu Mic: B - 1876, 1879
> Dobra: B - 1890 / M - 1899
> Demanesti: B - 1890 / M - 1899
> Dindesti: B - 1874-85 / D - 1871-89
> Krip (? or Hrip?): B - 1877-79 / M - 1878 / D - 1876
> Horodu de Jos: B - 1879, 1887
> Iojib: B - 1880-82
> Irina: B - 1876
> Istrau: B - 1881
> Lazuri: D - 1874
> Livada: B - 1860-62, 1874, 1876-77, 1887-88 / D - 1874-77
> Livada Nou: B - 1859-85 / M - 1860-85 / D - 1860-85
> Martinesti: B - 1877 / D - 1876
> Medicsu-Aurit (includes Apa Potau, Iojib): unknown years and types of
> records
> Micula: B - 1862-63, 1977
> Moftinu Mic (includes Berea, Berueni, Capleni, Ciumesti, Domanesti,
> Mindesti, Irina, Piscolt Portitia, Tiream Vezendiu): B - 1871-85 / M
> -1871-85 /
> D - 1871-89
> Negresti: B - 1865, 1871, 1877, 1880-82, 1884-85, 1895 / M - 1880,
> 1895 / D - 1872,
> 1880-82, 1892
> Odoreu: B - 1877, 1891 / M - 1877, 1890 / D - 1860-1863
> Peles: B - 1872-75
> Petea: B - 1871
> Piscari (includes Socono, Aroud, Maoaras, Beltiug, Hurezu-Mare,
> Criocrelt): B -1879
> Potau: B - 1875, 1877-78, 1891 / D - 1877
> Ratesi: B - 1871, 1876-79, 1884 / D - 1876, 1877, 1879
> Resighea: B - 1878-79, 1884
> Saniscau: B - 1874-1886 / D - 1876-1882
> Socond: B - 1852, 1877-79 / D - 1879
> Soconzel: D - 1864
> Tataresti: B - 1878
> Satu Mare (the city, that is -- but this probably includes some records
> from nearby
> smaller communities too -- ten record books total, with overlapping sets
> of years
> and information): B - 1850-1913 / M - 1851-1921 / D - 1850-1900
> Tiream: B - 1880-84 / D - 1878, 1880, 188? (date of the last year is
> unclear)
> Vama: B - 1880 / M - 1890
> Vetis: B - 1876 / M - 1871 / D - 1860-64
> Vezenoiu: B - 1876-78 / D - 1876, 1879, 1882
>
> - Brooke Schreier Ganz
> Los Angeles, California
>
>
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