Re: [Cz-L] Apropos religious marriage

To respond to this older topic:

It reminds me of and clarifies an event from our family history. My
father was born in Berhometh, where many family members apparently came
from (others later moved to Czernowitz) recorded in his recollections:

    My parents were married in 1905 in Berhometh . . . by a rabbi, but
    never registered, as required, with the local civil authorities. It
    wasn't until we were in Sokoliki, and until urged to do so by their
    friends . . . that they finally did so in 1912. I was six years old
    by that time, very excited about this event, telling everyone that I
    was going to go to my parents' wedding!

He explained this by saying that his father--who was a good business
manager, very fastidious in dress, and so forth--simply did not bother
himself with some of the other formalities of life:

         My father, by contrast, was very casual about money, and about
    many other things as well: such as, not bothering to register his
    marriage to my mother with the civil authorities until finally
    badgered to do so. Nor did he do anything about obtaining Polish
    citizenship, after the Austrian collapse, until years had passed.

So maybe it was really at least in part because the pattern you describe
simply continued into the early 20th century (unless my father was just
right about his father).

Note: When trying to locate some family vital records and the like
online a few years ago, I seem to recall, I came across some births that
were marked as illegitimate, which puzzled me. The recent exchanges on
these marriage practices would seem to explain that. Thank you all for
supplying these very helpful anecdotes and figures.

Jim

[Jim... please post in Plain Text]

On 26/07/2010 00:12, HARDY BREIER wrote:
> Mimi,
> The statistics are difficult to follow but one thing is clear:
> Jews, far less than any other community , did not marry officially.
> They preferred the Rabbi to the registrar.
> And this in the freedom era of the Habsburgs, after the emancipation
> and Spring of Nations of 1848 in the most liberal regime in Europe.
> The Pravoslav, mostly rural population ,had a better record on
> registration.
> Has this some meaning ?
> Hardy

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