Re: [Cz-L] Ashkenazim, Sphardim, etc.

From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:01:03 -0400
To: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>, Charles Rosner <frenchczern1_at_yahoo.com>, Czernowitz Genealogy and History <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Reply-to: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>

Since we do not seem to agree on where Czernowitz Jews came from and since
many of us are, or were blond and blue eyed, let me complicate matters
further:

Some of us probably are of Slavic origin. Occasionally a Jew would find
himself in a place where there were no Jewish single women and he would
marry a local woman and she would convert or hide the fact that she was not
born Jewish. During pogroms and normal life, from time to time a Jewish
woman was raped and if she became pregnant, the child was brought up Jewish.
But most interestingly, there seems to be evidence that during the
reformation, Polish Catholics first became protestants and when they were
persecuted for their beliefs, they fled to Moldavia and eventually converted
to Judaism.

In the article by Manfred Reifer "The Era of the Moldavian Princes", as
translated by Silverbush, the author writes:

> This can be deducted from a report by the Polish chronicler, Martin Bielski
> from the year 1540, according to which, Jewish converts, fleeing from
> persecution by the Polish church found refuge with Jews in Moldavia. This
> report is made more creditable by the fact that in Poland under the influence
> of the counter-reformation, the sects of the Arianer and the Sozinianer saw in
> Christ, a Jewish prophet. Actually, rumors were spreading in Krakow that Jews
> were seeking converts and that Christians were secretly converting to Judaism.

Mimi

On 9/16/10 1:07 AM, "HARDY BREIER" <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET> wrote:

> We came from the East ?
> Or came we from the West,
> We spoke Yiddish or Ladino ?
> Maybe some Khasary ?
> You can go meshugge !
> Had we black hair ? Or maybe red ?
> Were our eyes black or maybe blue ?
> Our noses long or maybe short ?
> Was our complexion dark ?
> http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Khazar013.jpg
>
> At night of all kind of Khazaries visit me !
> Hardy

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