[Cz-L][Fwd: Re: Ghetto perimeter fence]

[I think this should have gone to the list -jerome]

From: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>
To: Leo Spitzer <ls2307_at_columbia.edu>, I Vaisman <iosif.vaisman_at_gmail.com>, jerome schatten <romers_at_shaw.ca>, Edgar Hauster <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>, Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>
Cc: Marianne Hirsch <mh2349_at_columbia.edu>
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Subject: Re: Ghetto perimeter fence
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:33:59 +0200
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The Ghetto had road blocks and controlled gates.
    What sense would these make if the hinterland was wide open ?
    I did not see the eastern and northern ghetto limits and cannot
   describe how the demarkation and control was enforced.
    How could a cul de sac street be controlled just by an end block?
     Maybe we have somebody who lived there and knows ?
Hardy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo Spitzer" <ls2307_at_columbia.edu>
To: "I Vaisman" <iosif.vaisman_at_gmail.com>; "jerome schatten"
<romers_at_shaw.ca>; "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>; "Miriam Taylor"
<mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>; "HARDY BREIER" <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>; "Arthur von
Czernowitz" <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>
Cc: "Marianne Hirsch" <mh2349_at_columbia.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: Ghetto perimeter fence

Dear all: There is a temptation to apply perimeter fencing paradigms
elicited from German erected ghettos like Lodz and Warsaw to the Cernauti
ghetto. All of the oral accounts that we collected, however, as well as
memoirs we have read, do not speak about a perimeter fence around this
ghetto. Instead, they indicate that the end-points of the designated
streets and side streets with potential access to ghetto streets were closed
off with barbed wire and guarded by gendarmes. This makes sense, given the
overall brevity of the existence of the Cernauti ghetto and the fact that
many streets bordering on or seemingly enclosed by designated ghetto streets
housed a sizable population of non-Jewish working and lower-middle class
Ukrainians and Romanians who would have been ghettoized by a perimeter
fence as well. So, while it is interesting to imagine a perimeter fence,
none of the information historians use to ascertain evidence corroborates
the actual existence of such a structure.
    =

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