Re: [Cz-L] Visit

Stephen...

In your mail dated 25.04.11 you mentioned that your wife's family came from Rudniki near Lvov, as many of our ancestors, who came initially from Galicia, mine from Rohatyn. As Bruce Reisch already stated, I guess it's Rudnyky, Oblast L'viv, SE from L'viv

GPS N049.45793' E023.91035'

where I made a stop-over yesterday morning, taking some pictures and releasing them at our Ehpes.com Blog at

http://ehpes.com/blog1/2011/05/06/rudnyky-oblast-lviv-ukraine/

Sorry, not any traces of a Jewish past, no synagogue, no cemetery, no monument, simply nothing. Just a few passengers, waiting for the bus, a few gooses, waiting for food and a biker collegue with one more wheel and God on board. Not a bad idea, considering the streets condition in Ukraine!

Edgar Hauster
from Edgar's iPad

Am 25.04.2011 um 05:41 schrieb "Winters, Stephen" <Stephen.Winters_at_atlantichealth.org>:

> I would like to thank Bruce, Mimi, Edgar, Paul, and all other participants for helping me plan my trip to Czernowitz later this spring.
>
> The google earth equivalent maps have been extremely useful. I have spent many hours taking advantage of my father's photographic memory to outline sites along routes which I hope to see as well as specific graves in the cemetery.
>
> I am gaining great insight into the complexity of life, as well as our people in general, in Czernowitz during my parents' youth leading up to WW II.
>
> I even have a better understanding why many people I met during my life who were from pre WW II Chernowitz did not consider themselves from Romania, but rather insisted that their origin was Bucovina...although some insisted they were from Austria (even if born after WW I).
>
> One of my colleagues, Dr. Mark Preminger, insisted that his father - Otto - was from Austria....I pointed out to him where his father was really from -- Chernowitz.
>
> When I was a student, I met Dr. Hans Schapira...a late urologist at Mt. Sinai in NY. He told me he was from Austria, but as I probed further, he said he was form Czernowitz. This happened more recently when I met a cardiologist, Dr. Ernst Greif, who claimed he was from Austria. After some more questioning he admitted that he was from Czernowitz and that his father was the senior dermatologist at the Jewish hospital
>
> In the past, when I told individuals (often parents of friends or colleagues) from other areas of Eastern Europe (Poland, Russia) that my parents were from Czernowitz, the somewhat assertive response was, "oh they are from Romania"...almost with a derogatory tone.
>
> In preparation for my trip I have also been speaking with Itzik Gottesman, the brother of my childhood friend Haym, and son of the artist Bella. Itzik has given me a greater appreciation for the Yiddishist influence on old Czernowitz.
>
> As an aside, my wife's family is from a town near Lvov, known as Rudniki. We are trying to plan a brief excursion there as well. Does any one have any knowledge of this town which was in Galicia ?
>
> Is any one else planning to be in Czernowitz towards the end of May or beginning of June ?
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