Re: [Cz-L] Our Origins

From: Hedwig Brenner <hedbren_at_zahav.net.il>
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:29:40 +0200
To: alexander rosner <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>, Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
Reply-to: Hedwig Brenner <hedbren_at_zahav.net.il>

Hi Alex,
Thanks for your quick answer, I am almost 94 but I am curious to learn
something new, if it is litterature, archeology, history, art, science..I
am working on the 5.volume of the lexicon, mostly at night, because
day-timeI have so many tel.calls, emails, hosts,some travel to the banc,
shopping, and I love cooking..and all the things are taking time, because,
you will see on my age, all is going 'LENTO'
regards
Hedwig
----- Original Message -----
From: "alexander rosner" <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>
To: "Hedwig Brenner" <hedbren_at_zahav.net.il>; "Robert Burton"
<robert.burton_at_rogers.com>; <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Our Origins

Hi Hedwig,

the statement that the whole Khazar tribe converted to Judaism is not
proved.
Until recently it was common knowledge among researchers that it was only
the nobility which converted and maybe small parts of others.
The majority was thought to have converted to Islam.
The extent of this is now disputed because too many synagogues have been
discovered on former Khazaria to be the appropriate number for only the
nobility.
These archeological discoveries could be performed only during the last 2
decades, as before the authorities of the USSR have been very reluctant in
Khazar archeology,
as the Khazars were enemies of the old Russians till prince Oleg defeated
them.
It is still not known if all, the majority or a minority converted to
Judaism.

The statement that they were like Wikings blonde with blue eyes is in my
opinion at least with a big question.
As Turkic people the Khazars originated in Central Asia and were a tribe
which invaded south east Europe some time after the Huns and long before the
Mongols, with other Turkic tribes in between.
These kind of people are certainly not known to be blond. Maybe they mixed
with the Goths and became "more" blond?

Regards,
Alex

----- Ursprüngliche Message -----
> Von: Hedwig Brenner <hedbren_at_zahav.net.il>
> An: Robert Burton <robert.burton_at_rogers.com>; Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
> CC:
> Gesendet: 13:17 Freitag, 20.April 2012
> Betreff: Re: [Cz-L] Our Origins
>
> Hi Bob, It is Koestlers novel : The 13 tribe, that is not a legend because
> the
> Han Bulan of the people of Khasars, they lived between the Volga and Don,
> he
> converted with his nobles to juedaisme, after that the whole tribe
> converted,
> they were not christians before, they were "Heiden", pagani in
> roumanian, I do not know in english...Benjamin de Tudela, a Jewish deputy
> in
> Spain before Torquemada) was sent as deputy from the Spanish Court to
> Bulan, I
> read the diary of Tudela in German, may be 15 years ago, he made the same
> trip
> like Marco Polo....These Khasars were very good fighters and came until
> Pokutia,
> it is Poland and probably also to Bukovina...They were like the
> Wikings,blond
> with blue eyes, their state were in the years 700-1100, than they
> disappeared...and may be, who can know the Jentes in the year 1000????a
> goodlooking man, once it is not a
> "sin"...Isn't it????
> Shabbat Shalom
> Hedwig

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