Re: [Cz-L] It's all about the past

From: Jacob Greenberg <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:05:08 +1100
To: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Reply-to: Jacob Greenberg <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>

Only some of the local Ukrainians may think that Chernovitz is a better
place now than it was during the Soviet times. None of my classmates thinks
so. I don't feel sorry for Russians who remained there and who are quite
oppressed by the Ukrainians-they got a taste of their own medicine.
Chernovitz without Jews is a ghost of it 's former self. Jews brought to it
energy, business and culture, even in the Soviet times. Yes, it was
dangerous to do the illegal business and there was a "quota" of 3% at the
university but still, it was a thriving Jewish city. Not any more.
Whoever visits Chernovitz now, visits a museum, not a place to live. The
economy is appalling and there is no future. The good thing is that they
have freedom of speech and the anti-Semitism is not so popular as there is
no Jews.
If you've been to cities like Toledo in Spain, you'll understand what I
mean. It's all about the glorious past. That's why you see memorial plagues
everywhere. They hope that it will bring more Jewish tourists or, to put it
precisely, it will bring them more dollars.

As for what you call "Rogenschnitzerl", it is possible to use breadcrumbs
instead of a soaked bread, it's less messy and not so time consuming.

Serah Kraft

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
To: "Jacob Greenberg" <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>
Cc: "cornel fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] After we go

>I too was told that the current Jewish population of Chernivtsi numbers
>1500.
> The total population of Chernivtsi numbers about 230,000.
> This means that Jews constitute 0.6% of the total population.
> Yet there are currently two (2) Jewish members of the city council,
> constituting about 7% of the council. It follows that many non-Jews
> must have voted for the Jewish councilmen.
>
> The contribution of the former Jewish residents to the culture
> and development of the city is currently recognized.
> I was told by researchers at the Holocaust Museum, that in Chernivtsi
> there are more memorial plaques to former Jewish residents,
> than in any other city in the Ukraine.
>
> As to the assimilation of the jewish population: You can find examples
> for every possible occurrences. The people who live in the apartment
> in which my family lived during the war, have a daughter, who married
> a Chernivtsi Jewish man and they now live in Israel. This summer,
> in the cemetery, I met a woman who had left Chernivtsi and now lives in
> Israel.
> With her were her daughter and Ukrainian son in law, who live in
> Chernivtsi.
>
> Many Jewish residents are married to non-Jews, yet the attendance
> at Saturday morning prayers in rabbi Glisenshtains synagogue was quite
> great.
>
> Chernivtsi now is not what Czernowitz was in 1939.
> But it is certainly a better place than it was during the soviet period.
>
> It is not the people who moved to the city from the villages who are to
> blame
> for the neglect of some streets and buildings, but rather the residue of
> Russian
> habits of negligence and mismanagement.
>
> Mimi

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