Re: [Cz-L] After we go - it's all about the past.

From: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:53:44 +0200
To: Jacob Greenberg <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>, Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Reply-to: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>

Very sad but true.
  There is still one place in Czernowitz you can be between
  Jews exclusively.
    It is the Horecea Zwintar - the Jewish cemetery.
   Here lie over 50,000 Jews of the old stock.
    Here you are among Czernowitz finest.
      The stones are mostly in German .
     Some old ones in Hebrew only.
       This place is and will remain Jewish forever.
        Not all is lost.
Hardy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Greenberg" <grs_software_at_bigpond.com>
To: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Cc: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] After we go - it's all about the past.

>
> Re: [Cz-L] After we go - while we are here.Dear all,
>
> I think that restoring the Temple and using it for some dignified =
> purpose is a great idea. The problem is that it served as a sacred place =
> of worship and so it will remain.=20
> A commemorative plaque sounds like a good idea. There are plenty of them =
> around in Chernovtsi. I'm sure, Ukrainian authorities will do that, =
> especially if the plaque will subtly blame Russians.
>
> A Concert Hall or University Hall is same as a cinema theatre. There =
> were concerts there which I have attended as a young girl.
>
> My grandmother refused to go near the "Jovten" cinema in the Soviet =
> time; my parents and myself went there eagerly. There was live music =
> there and it was a very pleasant experience. I have never seen a =
> synagogue till I was and visited one in Leningrad. Now, living in =
> Australia, I can imagine the horror if, G-d forbid, the Great Synagogue =
> of Sydney was turned (by some catastrophic event) into a Concert Hall. =
> Especially, if 70.000 Jews were still living nearby.
>
> Now, some information that may surprise you all.
> My father, Oscar Kraft, who was a brave and a resilient man, have =
> appealed for compensation during the Khrushchev times in the late 60s =
> and got a payout from Russians (2000 rubel, not a small amount in those =
> days) for their family property in Adankata.
> The refusal of Ukraine to compensate its former citizens for the loss of =
> property (not to mention for financial loss) points to the fact that =
> Ukraine doesn't belong to the Western democracy as we know it.
>
> When I posted 'it's all about the past" I meant the Jewish past -and =
> that's all what I am concerned about at present. There was a large, =
> thriving community there, even in the Soviet times. It's all over now. =
> The modern day Chernovtsi is a Western Ukrainian city with an Ukrainian =
> population that moved into the homes of Jews who left in the 70s and in =
> the 90s and into the homes of Russians who left after the Perestroika.
>
> The Temple, the Jewish Cemetery, the plaques serve to preserve that past =
> for us and for the next generations. Chernowitz/Chernivtsi will be like =
> Toledo in Spain: "Dear tourists.there was once a glorious Jewish =
> presence here, now let's visit another Jewish museum".
>
> So, plaques and commemorations are very important as I am sure our =
> children and grandchildren would want to visit (even if it's a virtual =
> visit) one day.
>
> Best wishes,
> Serah Kraft

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