Re: [Cz-L] Resilience

Dear Arthur,

Like you I was very upset about a member of this list calling
the deportation and murder of the Jews of Czernowitz, or
the Bucovina in Transnistria, "Holocaust Lite".
I wanted to stop the discussion about who suffered more
and who suffered less. I certainly did not mean to belittle
or deny the suffering of the Jews of Czernowitz and the Bukovina.

In my previous Email I wrote:
>> The Romanians had no detailed plans as to what to do with
>> the Jews they deported to the newly conquered part of Ukraine,
>> called Transnistria, which extended east of Romania, into Ukraine
>> up to the river Bug. They just wanted to get rid of them.
>> That is why, they established few organized camps and no
>> organized mass killings in Transnistria.
>> That is why most Bucovina Jews, who were deported and died
>> in Transnistria, died on the forced marches to Transnistria,
>> or perished there from hunger, cold and disease.

My intention was to emphasize that the murder of the Jews
of Bucovina was not centrally planed as was the murder
of German, Polish or Hungarian Jews and that because of this,
a higher percentage of them survived.
This does not deny or contradict that 2000 Jews were killed
in the streets of Czernowitz in July 1941, by Romanian soldiers
"working in league with local residents, gendarmes and German
soldiers", nor that local residents and Romanian army units,
on their own, did commit mass murders in the villages and
smaller towns in the Bukovina, nor that thousands died in transit
and work-camps in Transnistria, nor that large numbers
of Bucovina Jews were shot in Transnistria or on the way there.

Mimi

On Feb 3, 2013, at 3:57 PM, Arthur von Czernowitz wrote:

> Dear Mimi,
> Yes there were organizer mass killings:
> The beginning July 1941 more than 2,000 Jews were killed in the
> streets in Czernowitz by Romanian troops, including the chief Rabbi
> Mark.
> From Bukovina, thousands were taken into fields and forests,
> ordered to dig enormous mass graves, and shot. Those who dumped the
> bodies into the graves were shot after their job was done; they
> were barely covered with dirt. At times the earth would move from
> people who were buried while still alive. The following numbers of
> Jews murdered by shooting speak for themselves "In Domanovka
> --18,000; in Bogdanovka -- 48,000; in Acmechetka -- 5,000; in
> Vertujeni -- 23,000, there is more. It is just not recognized, our
> office is fighting with Yad Veshem.
> There is a true story that some peasants bought the living Jews for
> 1,500-2,000 lei, and then had them shot by the soldiers so that
> they could take off their clothes.
>
> August 2010, in a place called Budi, I found the mass grave where
> my mother was buried.
>
> We did not suffer more than the Jews at Auschwitz, our people died
> just the same.
>
> Calling Transnitria Holocaust Lite is very upsetting.
>
> Arthur
>

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