Re: [Cz-L] Finding Family in Czernowitz

Dear Anne-Mette,

Just adding to Edgar's excellent suggestions:

1. Search the online Czernowitz vital records database and use all
variant spellings of Rueber (Rieber, Ruber, Riber, etc.). There are many
possible clues to your family in this database - and copies of the records
themselves can be ordered to find out more. You will find the database
here: <http://microtarget.com/czernowitz/CzernowitzBMDindex.htm>

2. In the Czernowitz Jewish Cemetery, you may find more clues regarding
your family. I will send you separately a listing of all burials for the
family surname Ruber (and variant spellings). You can also search the
online version of this database here:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/> (You will be asked to
"register" to use the database, but there is no cost to use.) Limit the
search location to Ukraine/Bucovina. You will find 25 matches for surname
"Ruber" using "sounds-like" for the name search and I believe all results
come from the cemetery in Chernivtsi/Czernowitz Ukraine. Perhaps you will
recognize a family given name among the results.

I hope this is helpful and best of luck as you continue your search.

Bruce

On 6/1/13 2:38, "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

>Anne-Mette...
>
>Welcome to the group, that's the right place for you to be and "to find
>out from where my family came, where they lived, how life was, why they
>left etc.etc.". As for Isak (Jitzchak) Rüber, if you are checking the
>Czernowitz Address Directories for the years
>
>1909: http://bit.ly/139VMak
>1914: http://bit.ly/139VQGZ
>
>and/or at the Ehpes databases section: http://bit.ly/10G2tB6
>
>you'll discover Isak Rüber, a barkeeper, living on Russische Gasse 79 in
>1909/1914, but no entry for him in the year 1936 (http://bit.ly/ZAjspU).
>Therefore your version for an immigration before WW1 seems to be
>concludent to me. (You'll get an excerpt from the address directories by
>separate mail.)
>
>Finally, as a "welcome gift" for you, I've uploaded three more
>translations of Paul Celan's "Todesfuge" to the "Schwarze Milch, Black
>Milk.." exhibition, one of them being Norwegian:
>
>http://bit.ly/16xVr69 - Norwegian
>http://bit.ly/18FqLwV - Swedish
>http://bit.ly/13s7ZG4 - Serbo-Croatian
>
>Warmest wishes from the Netherlands!
>
>Edgar Hauster • MacBook
>Lent • The Netherlands
>
>
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>> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 11:50:16 -0700
>> From: anprent_at_online.no
>> To: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
>> Subject: [Cz-L] Finding Family in Czernowitz
>>
>> First, a warm 'Hallo' to all members of the group trying to find family
>> in Czernowitz!
>>
>> I have tried for many years to find out from where my family came, where
>> they lived, how life was, why they left etc.etc.
>>
>> I know that my father`s family came from Czernowitz when seeing the
>> death certificate of my uncle. He committed suicide while being
>> interrogated by the ZZ in Berlin on the 13th of July 1937. He is buried
>> on “Der Jüdishe Friedhof Weissensee”. I got his papers and there I saw
>> that he was born on the 15th of July 1912 in Czernowitz. I knew they
>> came from the eastern part of Europe, but the saying was Poland. His
>> German name was Karl Ernst. According to a “myth”? Eastern Jews had to
>> change their names when settling in Germany. Perhaps this is true.
>> Karl`s father was named Jacob and his mother Sarah (my grandparents).
>> Jacob died in Israel, Sarah died in Montevideo, Uruguy. But, on the
>> Graveyard Weissensee is also my great-grandparents buried. The text on
>> the gravestone is interesting, it says in German: “ Hier ruht ein alter,
>> aufrecter und geradsinniger Mann, unser Lehrer, /Rabbiner Jitzchak, Sohn
>> unserem Lehrer Mordechai/, sein Andenken zum Segen,/Rüber/ (Riber?). Er
>> starb am 25.5. 1922 im Alter von 64 Jahren. Seine Seele sei eingebunden
>> in das Buch des Lebens.” This text is in Hebrew, a kind friend has
>> translated it for me.
>>
>> From “Stiftung Neue Synagoge Berlin” have I learned that Isak
>> (Jitzchak) Rüber was born in/Wiznitz/ on the 10th of July 1857. He was a
>> some sort of tradesman. His wife is Fanny/Feigel Rüber, her maiden name
>> was /Zucker/. She was born on the 6th of April 1853 in/Zablonow/.
>> The story of the family is that my grandparents went on foot from
>> Czernowitz to Berlin around 1913. My grandparents had four children, one
>> “boy” is still alive, he is almost 100 years by now! He lives in
>>America.
>>
>> Is there anyone who has come across these names? According to what I
>> understand, my great-grandfather and his father must have been Rabbi. I
>> remember my father once mentioned that his father once was a cantor in
>> the Synagoge. But alas, my father denied answering any questions about
>> family. My father died some years ago, he is buried in Maintz, Germany.
>>
>> I really look forward to hearing from you!
>> Warm wishes
>> Anne-Mette Prent
>> PS. I am a Norwegian, living in Oslo, Norway


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