Hardy, I can judge on the basis of published statistics.people's memoirs ec
etc...and that is just as valid!! Cornel
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From: Hardy Breier [mailto:hardy3_at_bezeqint.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 1:33 PM
To: 'cornel fleming'; 'jerome schatten'; 'CZERNOWITZ-L'
Cc: 'Frederick M. Weisinger'; 'Anny Matar'
Subject: תשובה: [Cz-L] Book of the Month, January 2015: "A Sanguine Bunch"
Cornel.
You make statements you cannot substantiate.
>From reading books alone you cannot judge.
The " Sanguine bunch " is also a book.
What you call nonsense maybe true.
Always Czernowitz had more poor people than rich.
Like everywhere else.
We speak of the mid 19 century!
Hardy
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[mailto:bounce-118672496-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu] בשם cornel fleming
נשלח: Monday, January 05, 2015 2:00 PM
אל: 'jerome schatten'; 'CZERNOWITZ-L'
עותק: 'Frederick M. Weisinger'; 'Anny Matar'
נושא: RE: [Cz-L] Book of the Month, January 2015: "A Sanguine Bunch"
Hi all! At this stage I want to add my bit! I too had the "Jerome"
impression..but he said it better than I could! But...now the comment re
"persistent economic misery"....this is arrant nonsence.Of course there were
poorer people and richer people,but all my books seem to say that overall
the Bukowina was a prosperous area with well-developed social,cultural, and
educational facilities....and that is certainly not an area of total
economic misery. None of my very extended family were in a money-lending etc
business and all were reasonably well-off and working in the timber trade,in
Law, in Medicine, in Music teaching,in Journalism etc etc. The author of
this dissertation seems to have had a few prejudices!!!!! Cornel
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From: bounce-118671230-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-118671230-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of jerome
schatten
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 11:42 PM
To: CZERNOWITZ-L
Cc: Frederick M. Weisinger; Anny Matar
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Book of the Month, January 2015: "A Sanguine Bunch"
Fred...
At first I could not understand what you were getting at when you said:
"The tittle does tell a lot about the direction of the book". Then, this
morning, Anny Mater wrote to me: "...Jew hatred was nothing new and the
title "sanguine"= French, for bloodsuckers can't really tell anything
favorable about the Jews."
I began to see the multiple ways in which 'sanguine' is being used and
interpreted by the folks discussing this thread. So... how to really
understand the 'title', "A Sanguine Bunch"?
It is my understanding that 'sanguine', usually refers to a rosy, optimistic
disposition, or one's favouring the best possible outcome.
At the very end of the summary section, talking about the 1908 Celebrations
in Vienna, the author says:
"Czernowitz had commemorated its 500th existence shortly before with a
parade focusing on Austrian accomplishments [...] It was hardly surprising
that in the press the traditional criticism surfaced again: nobody in the
West really knew about Bukovina and the cheerful folksy tableaux on display
hid the persistent economic misery in the land."
Is it posible that this may be the 'sanguinity' in the title rather than
'bloodsucking'. In other words, the 'Pollyanna-ish' attitude of the
Monarchy?
Best,
jerome
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