RE: [Cz-L] Sadagura synagogue

From: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:43:59 +0100
To: "'Anny Matar'" <annymatar_at_gmail.com>, "'Gary Rogovin'" <grcpa1_at_gmail.com>
Reply-To: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>


Annie,there was not a "Mischling" unit...but there were such people serving
in the Wehrmacht. I have a book by Brian Mark Rigg"Lives of Hitler's Jewish
Soldiers"...and there were quite a lot!!! Cornel.

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To: Gary Rogovin
Cc: HARDY BREIER; Miriam Taylor; Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Sadagura synagogue


These books are the Jewish history. Pinsker wrote about the dangers of
assimilation which he had seen in Russia too. Jabotinsky wrote about it but
the latter did not only warn but thought that our survival depended on A.
Zionism, B. only the Polish Jewry who remained true to tradition and Jewish
way of life. German Jewry tried very hard to become true Germans, more
German than the Germans and before Hitler's Jewish "grandmother", had no
idea that they had any Jewish roots. The strange thing, as we heard after
the war, was that during WWII there was (here I'm not certain so I'll write
just what I remember) a unit or regiment in the army called "Mischlings"
(mixed identity). I don't know what they had to do but some of them spoke
about it as they lived in Israel.
The strangest thing, and that I know from people who survived the horrors of
Nazi camps - names are irrelevant they were all the same-, that Germans,
when deported from Germany to Poland and then to Auschwitz refused to be put
together with "the" Poles. We saw a newsreel here photographed by a German
soldier showing pictures of the Warsaw ghetto one woman with a fur collar
and hat, typical West, and next to her a dirty neglected woman - German or
West European and East.- In the end they met the same fate.

While I was working in Zurich for El Al 1952, and was married, a lady came
in to ask me if I'd join WIZO and which one I belonged to the Western or
Eastern? I was so taken aback that all I could think of was neither, thank
you, as I'm Eastern married to a German. Czernowitz was neither East nor
West it was and is eine Weltanschaung something apart from identification a
world in its own rights.

Sorry it became longer than I wanted, hope you find time to read it, anny

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Gary Rogovin <grcpa1_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> 5-26-15
>
> Ost Jude or European? That is the question!
>
>
> https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/webexhibits/RosenbergerEastAndWest/TheE
> ndO=
fGermanJewishLife.html
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hardy Breier"
> <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net>
> To: "'Miriam Taylor'" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
> Cc: "'Czernowitz-L_at_cornell'" <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Sadagura synagogue
>
>
> Mimi.
> By the dead Rabbi formula the longer he is dead the holier he is.
> The Breslaver Rabbis grave from Uman attracts yearly tens of thousands
> of followers.
> He is dead for more than 200 years ,
> that=E2=80=99s why.
> Hassidim fly in from all continents.
> There are no Middle European Jews.
> Either you are Ost- Jude or European .
>
> Hardy


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