Now I'm really in trouble.
I didn't write anything controversial, just a response to a comment about Germans.
Now I know you're a moderator too.
I will abide by your rules, even though I feel they are too constraining.
Facebook is mad at me for criticizing Mark Zuckerberg. IMDb, Huffington Post, and the HBO boards are all angry with me for criticizing Obama. I've been banned ny them. I'll tone it down from now on .
Ll
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:16 AM, jerome schatten <romers_at_shaw.ca>wrote:
>
> No problem... It did not get deleted... there was nothing there. I am a moderator along with Bruce Reisch.
>
> The litmus test for posts is that it has to have something of substance to do with Jewish Bukovina (genealogy, history, sociology, language, customs, geography, ethnography, education, religion, art, books, film, photos, documents, holocaust, and so on). It's that simple. Political screeds probably wouldn't pass the test.
>
> Best,
> jerome
>
>
>> On 2015-06-21 20:49, Lloyd wrote:
>> I'm sorry, Jerome.
>> I'll look for it tomorrow.
>> I think it got deleted by our friendly moderator.
>> I write some hard hitting, no punches pulled political messages and it wouldn't surprise me if it was too critical of liberal American Jews to get the moderator's approval.
>> Lloyd
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:14 PM, romers_at_shaw.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Your post had no content from you, only the quoted content from
>>> others...
>>> jerome
>>>
>>> A copy of the rejected message is included below.
>>>
>>> - The Moderator
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>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Hardy Breier <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>> How did the German people get democratic
>>>> and liberal ?
>>>> Only after the Russians broke their backs=20
>>>> In Stalingrad .
>>>> Not before .
>>>> =20
>>>> Hardy
>>>> =20
>>>> [Moderator's note: Follow-up posts must be on-topic, please.]
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
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>>> ---
>>>> =D7=9E=D7=90=D7=AA: bounce-119394102-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu
>>>> [mailto:bounce-119394102-3499476_at_list.cornell.edu] =D7=91=D7=A9=D7=9D Mari=
>>> on Tauschwitz
>>>> =D7=A0=D7=A9=D7=9C=D7=97: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:04 PM
>>>> =D7=90=D7=9C: cyberorange_at_gmx.de
>>>> =D7=A2=D7=95=D7=AA=D7=A7: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu; bconcept_at_hotmail.com
>>>> =D7=A0=D7=95=D7=A9=D7=90: Aw: [Cz-L] Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia ar=
>>> ound... (Ladyzhyn -
>>>> 2414 km)
>>>> =20
>>>> Dear Edgar,dear Christian,=20
>>>> =20
>>>> we should not get frustrated. Like the both of you so many of these fellow=
>>>> members here are doing an excellent job. Rescue nameless bodies from
>>>> oblivion and take them home to our memory: by your travelling, researching=
>>>> and keeping on drawing the attention on Holocaust survivor's testimonies.
>>>> And all Czernowitzers here are contributing their parts to the sustainable=
>>>> collective memory day by day.
>>>> We will go on talking in school about what has happened and trying to
>>>> sensitize young people. Not by numbers but by names and single fates. We
>>>> will not reach all but touch some. And that is much and will bear fruit.
>>>> Have a safe journey, Edgar.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>> Marion
>>>> =20
>>>> I am about to find a possibility to get my Selma-biography translated into=
>>>> English to reach those who do not speak German any longer.
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> www.marion-tauschwitz.de
>>>> =20
>>>> Sitzbuchweg 43
>>>> 69118 Heidelberg
>>>> 0049 6221/80 54 37
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2015 um 12:18 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Christian Herrmann" <cyberorange_at_gmx.de>
>>>> An: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>, "Marion
>>>> Tauschwitz" <mariontau_at_web.de>
>>>> Betreff: Aw: [Cz-L] Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia around... (Ladyzhyn=
>>> -
>>>> 2414 km)
>>>> Dear Edgar,
>>>> =20
>>>> you are of course right with your diagnosis of amnesia. But is it just
>>>> "around" and are only the locals affected by it? When I tell friends about=
>>>> my recent travel experience, none of them has ever heared of Transnistria,=
>>>> and it needs a lot of explanations. The more informed think of it as that
>>>> part of Moldova, which declared its independence in the early 90s, and not=
>>>> as a part of Podolia in Ukraine. Podolia? Where is Podolia? Nemiriv,
>>>> Bratslav, Ladyzhyn, Mikhailivka? Never heared...
>>>> And are we free of this disease? Ladyzhyn was a Soviet Gulag before it
>>>> became Cariera de Piatra under Romanian rule, and continued to be a Soviet=
>>>> camp after the war. Did we ever raise the question who was imprisoned ther=
>>> e
>>>> and why? What was the fate of this prisoners?
>>>> "Black archaeology" - as you found it on the ground - is a commercial sect=
>>> or
>>>> in Ukraine. Helmets, bayonets, sometimes even tanks or artillery are
>>>> valuables for local and international collectors. There is a lot of it in
>>>> Ukrainian soil. Searching for this collectors items even takes place on
>>>> sites of mass murder - at least this is what I saw at the site of the form=
>>> er
>>>> concentration camp at Janowska Road in Lviv. As long as there is an
>>>> international market this will continue.
>>>> So what can we do? You already have the answer, Edgar. Speaking about it a=
>>> nd
>>>> hoping it makes a change.
>>>> =20
>>>> Warm wishes for a safe travel,
>>>> Christian
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2015 um 22:48 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
>>>> An: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
>>>> Cc: "Marion Tauschwitz" <mariontau_at_web.de>, "Christian Herrmann"
>>>> <cyberorange_at_gmx.de>
>>>> Betreff: Historical Amnesia and Memorabilia around... (Ladyzhyn - 2414 km)=
>>>> Czernowitzers...
>>>> =20
>>>> It's frustrating, but I think we have no choice but to accept that when it=
>>>> comes to the crimes committed during the Holocaust by Nazi Germany and its=
>>>> Romanian allies in Transnistria and beyond, it's all water under the bridg=
>>> e.
>>>> Read more on how nature is recapturing terrain and people fall into
>>>> historical amnesia:
>>>> =20
>>>> http://hauster.blogspot.com/2015/06/historical-amnesia-and-memorabilia_20.=
>>> ht
>>>> ml
>>>> =20
>>>> What are we to do? I don't know, but at least I'm travelling, still
>>>> researching and I'm keeping on drawing the attention on Holocaust survivor=
>>> 's
>>>> testimonies.
>>>> =20
>>>> Edgar Hauster <iPad>
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