Re: [Cz-L] Czernowitz History questions

From: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 10:37:30 +0300
To: Maurice Linker <linkerm_at_gmail.com>
Reply-To: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com>


Hardy put it in a nutshell, of course there are books written about the period.
Just 3 points:

The big merit of Traian Popovici was not only the fact that he
personally gave out some 6000 or so authorizations that were 8 months
later cancelled, but his main contribution wsa to convince Marshal
Antonescu to let some 30% of the population to remain in town as a
necessary evil for the purpose of maintaining the war effort. The
truth he knew very well, only a small part of the people who received
the official Calotescu permit was really needed in town.

About the passport number for so called capitalists - it was 39. All
the others were 36.

It is ridiculous even to try to compare between the two evils. Had the
red army not come back and liberated the town, not only we, but all
those who fortunately came back from Transnistria, and probably most
of the 450.000 Romanian Jews would have perished. The soviet regime
was one of terror, but it never specifically considered killing Jews
and actually did more for us (and for themselves) then all the other
allies did together.

[Berti Glaubach]

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Maurice Linker <linkerm_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> [Please post in plain text next time --thanks]
>
> Hi AllI was borne in 1930 and had many relatives all living inChernovitz=C2=
> =A0this what I can relate:My father had a mens wear shop so:in 1940 when th=
> e communists took over he lost his shop was declared an enemy of the state =
> and issued a passport number 38. His employees came to our place and chose =
> form his wardrobe whatever they wished. Also he had difficulties obtaining =
> a job - but for a soviet jew he helped him I was reluctantly made a pioneer =
> (Scout) because my father was an enemy of the state.In 1941 the police came=
> to deport us to Siberia - luckily we hid after being warned by a fellow je=
> w that the police will look for us and were not taken away, but my aunt unc=
> le and daughter were taken away because somebody told the authorities that =
> they were opposed to the government.They died in Siberia
> Than the Rumanians and Germans =C2=A0came back and we were placed in a Geht=
> o and the shop was Rumanised and not returned. We were lucky to get a permi=
> ssion to stay issued by the mayor of Chernovitz =C2=A0and so were 19600 oth=
> ers.We were lucky to remain in Chernovitz but all my relatives were taken a=
> way to Transnistria and some died there of hunger and sickness.Of course in=
> Chernovitz the Munich laws were unacted with al the =C2=A0restrictions
> After the conquest by the USSR of Chernovitz the soviets told my father tha=
> t he is an enemy of the state with all the restrictions.
> When my relatives returned from Transnistria they could not move into their=
> old homes and were exposed to antisemitism by the non jewish population & =
> migrated to Israel
> Regards
> Maurice Linker
> Prefered email address Linkerm_at_ieee.org
> Tel +61 2 93631399 Mob +61410808599
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:56 AM -0700, "Lloyd Marksamer" <longbeachlloyd_at_gm=
> ail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mimi Since I was not there to experience it, I am not familiar with all
> that happened in Czernowitz between 1940 and 1945
> I don't fully understand what the Soviets did and why they did it. And
> what happened to those they deported to Siberia? Were they better off than
> those who were left behind?
> And who did all the murders and deportations after the Soviets abandoned
> the city? Weren't the Ukrainians and Rumanians as savage and murderous as
> the Nazis?
> How was it that many Jews were killed outright or died in Transnistria
> while others seemed to live in relative safety?
> What happened to the Jews after the Red Army "liberated" Czernowitz?
> Did they return there from Transnistria? Did those who were living in the
> city remain there after the Soviets took over?
> Is all forgotten and forgiven by the Czernowitz Jews for what their
> neighbors did to them 70 years ago?
> All the answers to these questions are not clear to me.
> Lloyd Marksamer
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