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Why Irene is that a big question?? because of Stalin's love for Jews? Did
Beria do all that without his knowledge? Reading 1984, which was the same
as 1941, do you believe anyone could have done anything without the others
being well informed? Really, I think it's irrelevant who did what, it's the
result which matters.
As for Sorge. We know that he tried to warn the USA against the Pearl
Harbor attack and whether he informed the Russians of Barbarossa or not, no
one could have done anything against those advancing war machines and the
Kamy-Kazy All of them were fanatics like ISIS today whether willingly of
forcibly they had to do it as they're doing it today.
What matters who's behind it the bitter results and the millions who try to
find refuge "somewhere", the outcome is what matters.
Sorry Irene, nothing personal, anny
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Irene Fishler <irenef_at_netvision.net.il>
wrote:
> Hi , Maurice
> This Is a big question; did Stalin know ? Was the deportation to Siberia
> on June 13, 1941 linked to the imminent attack on Soviet Russia?
>
> It is said that Stalin did not believe the spy Richard Sorge:
> "Sorge supplied Soviet intelligence with information about the
> Anti-Comintern Pact and the German-Japanese Pact. In 1941, through his
> Embassy contacts, he learned of Operation Barbarossa, the imminent Axis
> invasion of the USSR, and even the approximate date. Moscow received the
> report, but ultimately Joseph Stalin and other top leaders ignored Sorge'=
s
> warnings, as well as those of other sources.
> (...) the closest Sorge came was 20 June 1941 and that Sorge himself neve=
r
> claimed to have discovered the correct date (22 June) in advance. The dat=
e
> of 20 June was given to Sorge by Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant-Colonel) Erwi=
n
> Scholl, the deputy military attach=C3=A9 at the German embassy"
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sorge
>
> Irene
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-119520797-3499296_at_list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-119520797-3499296_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Maurice Linker
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:16 AM
> To: M.Goldberger
> Cc: Czernowitz Genealogy and History
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Siberia
>
> Hi
> I and my family - my father had a No 39 passport - were warned by a frien=
d
> and hid during that night so escaped the deportation.
> I was with my aunt uncle and daughter when their were taken away to
> Siberia in the middle of the night and never returned.
> PS did the soviets know that the german will attack in August 1941?
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Preferred email address linkerm_at_ieee.org Maurice Linker Tel/fax
> +61293631399 Mob 0410808599
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