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Hi Konrad
I am lost as to what really happened
It will be interesting to read RUTH Gold memoirs and of course my story by Popovich etc
My impression was that the deportation to Transnistia was done in oct 1941 by gathering people by street at night giving them little time to take things with them before taking them to holding area and than by train/barge to Transnistria
I guess these are personal recollections
[Maurice Linker]
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From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylor37_at_gmail.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2020, 6:22 AM +1100
To: Maurice Linker <linkerm_at_gmail.com>
Cc: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com>, Rick Held <rickheld08_at_gmail.com>, Czernowitz Genealogy and History <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>, Konrad Kwiet <kkwiet_at_sjm.com.au>, Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>, Edgar Hauster <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] The Transnistia "Evacuations"
> The Popovici authorizations to remain in Czernowitz were handed out in November 1941.
> They were handed out in alphabetical order of the first letter of the surname.
> One or two letters per day. At the end of November, I believe it was either the 27th or 28th
> People who's names started with either R or S could get their authorizations.
> No bribes were necessary, at the same time the deportations to Transnistria continued.
> On the same evening on which my father Solomon Reifer and my uncle Yehosua Steinmetz
> Were getting their authorizations, soldiers came to the apartment in which we stayed
> In the ghetto, specifically to arrest my family. They had been given our name and address
> By the physician my mother had been to see that morning in the hope of getting
> A permit to remain in the city on the grounds of ill health.
> Luckily my mother was able to pretend that our name was not "Reifer".
>
> Mimi
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Maurice Linker <linkerm_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > --5e1b7018_41a7c4c9_cc6
> >
> > Hi all
> > I would like to know more about who in 1941 was authorised to=
> > stay in Cz
> > In my case my grand parents myself my sister and my parents stayed in Cz
> > Berti you talked about Popovici (not valid)
> > and Authorised
> > I be believe that by bribing you would be added to the authorised people=E2=
> > =80=99s list etc=3F
> > Also that in 1941 there nightly round up of Jews and taken. To a holding =
> > area before being loaded on to trains to Transnistria
> > Is this correct =3F
> >
> > Can I please get some information [Maurice Linker]
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS
> >
> > =46rom: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach=40gmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:28 pm
> > To: Rick Held
> > Cc: Czernowitz Genealogy and History; Maurice Linker; Konrad Kwiet; Arthu=
> > r von Czernowitz; Edgar Hauster
> > Subject: Re: The Transnistia =22Evacuations=22
> >
> > =C2=A0No problem at all.
> > As I wrote to you, there were no massive deportations re trains except in=
> > Oct/Nov 1941 and later in July 1942 to Transnistria.
> > Still, those having Popovici (not valid) authorizations, or those that ob=
> > tained valid authorizations to stay because of them being necessary
> > for the war effort, were in a continuous=C2=A0danger of being arrested an=
> > d sent away for work or to Tr. on an individual basis.
> > =46ew were sent to Tr. but many of the youth were recruited for labour ca=
> > mps in Romania proper, the official explanation was that Jews were exempt=
> > ed from the army
> > so that at least they might do some good, working in labor camps. But all=
> > of those came back after serving time (some 6 months I think).
> > That might explain the lists your father spoke about. All young=C2=A0 men=
> > able to work (age 20 to 30) had to do munc=C4=83 obligatorie. They were =
> > taken there
> > and brought back by train. But those were not death trains.
> > There was no causal chain from the vicinity of the open Ghetto to the rai=
> > lway station to the deportations or later to forced work. Whoever had to =
> > go
> > came to the station by himself or aided by the police. And that from ever=
> > ywhere inn town.
> > Everything in Cz. was known by the Jewish community what was called, lol,=
> > the I.P.A. (Idische Plotke Agentur). There was also the I.W.A/ (Iden Wil=
> > len Azoi).
> > =46rom mouth to mouth told, sometimes exaggerated news, but always with a=
> > grain of truth. The first pessimistic the second optimistic.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best Berti.
> >
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