Re: [czernowitz-l] A Poem

From: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 21:22:21 +0200
To: Annemarie Munzberg <munzbera_at_georgetown.edu>
Reply-To: Berti Glaubach <berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com>


Yes by Arthur Pfungst. The name of the Poem: Zueignung, Appropriation. It
is about the difficulty to remain true to yourself.
Easy to live when surrendered by others, but the real test comes when you
are alone (with your thoughts, ideology?)
Best,
Berti.

On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:13 PM Annemarie Munzberg <munzbera_at_georgetown.edu>
wrote:

> May I correct your translation?
> It is not to love but to live when you dwell with yourself
>
> My mother was also born in Czernowitz in 1912 She died in Paris
>
> Anne - Marie from Washington DC
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:35, Devorah Berman <devorahberman_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Anne-Mette,
>
> I am also more of a reader than poster on this list serve, and I too so
> enjoy the pieces of history and camaraderie I have learned from this
> wonderful group.
>
> From my bad google translation, I was able to come up with:
>
> Oh it’s so easy to float on the stream that roars around us. So hard to
> love when you dwell with yourself.
>
> When I searched for your poem in quotation marks, it came up in this book:
>
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=B5SByibiQ14C&pg=RA2-PA1&lpg=RA2-PA1&dq=Doch+es+ist+so+schwer+zu+leben,+%22wenn+man+mit+sich+selber+haust%22&source=bl&ots=GOu-e93dPU&sig=ACfU3U1MAJaa4zlhorFfoL471CTnGGasDQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikrP7-hpzvAhVmGFkFHZvOCmgQ6AEwAHoECAMQAg#v=onepage&q=Doch%20es%20ist%20so%20schwer%20zu%20leben%2C%20%22wenn%20man%20mit%20sich%20selber%20haust%22&f=false
>
> I’m not sure if that is the source, but maybe a direction to explore. It’s
> a beautiful poem. I’m so sorry to hear of another life cut short. I hope
> this helps! Best wishes to you and hope for more occasions for our paths
> to cross.
>
> Warmly,
> Devorah
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021, Anne-Mette Prent <anprent_at_online.no> wrote:
>
>> Dear Czernowitzers, I am among the "the silent readers" and have been so
>> for many years. I have enjoyed all the humor, thoughts and knowledge which
>> have been shared here on these pages. Now I wonder if you could help me
>> solving a mystery; My uncle Karl Ernst, born in Czernowitz in 1912, died in
>> 1937, buried at Weissensee; Berlin, has this poem written on his
>> gravestone: Ach es ist so leicht zu schweben, auf dem strom der uns
>> umbraust. Doch es ist so schwer zu leben, wenn man mit sich selber haust.
>>
>> Karl committed sucide while being tortured by the police in Berlin. He
>> was political active. Does anyone of you recognize this text? I am not a
>> German speaker my language is Norwegians ,so I have not a clue to whom
>> might be the author. Can you help me? I wonder if it is linked to his
>> tragic death or his political views as a communist? I am anxious to hea
>> from you.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Anne-Mette Prent
>>
>> Oslo
>>
>>
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