Nice analysis!☺
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 8:21 AM Benjamin Grilj <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com>
wrote:
> thanks, Iosif!
> Best, Benjamin
>
> Am 19.02.2021 um 21:24 schrieb iosif vaisman <iosif.vaisman_at_gmail.com>:
>
>
> Hi Benjamin,
>
> the difference in the angle is because you were shooting from the ground,
> and this photo is taken from a considerable height (perhaps an elevated
> platform or a watchtower). The prison is obscured by the barracks in this
> view. I initially was not sure that this is in Czernowitz, but a couple of
> architectural details convinced me. One is an external cornice between the
> first and the second floor in the barracks building (
> https://goo.gl/maps/y1TxRRqmVLYniLjt9) - it is not a very common element
> and can be seen in the left part of the right building. Second, is the
> pyramidal roof in the back of the left wing of the Volksschule (
> https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/dragos_olar/22526365/65335/65335_640.jpg)
> - it is on the right in the discussed photo. The overall skyline is not
> controversial - other tall buildings are outside of this view.
>
> best,
> Iosif
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:11 PM Benjamin Grilj <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Iosif,
>> in the first draft of my mail I wanted to give two possible places: the
>> Viktualienmarkt or the Exerzierplatz. But I eliminated the second
>> possibility since first the hill up the Mühlsteg is quite steep and the
>> shadow underneath the horses fall to the right (looking east would make no
>> Sense). Beside I - nowadays (some years ago I was there and took dozen of
>> photos before I was kicked out by a soldier) - can not find an angel of
>> view from the barracks to see the town hall and the Jubiläumsschule and the
>> cathedral without the prison? And there is another small clocktower beneath
>> the town hall. If it would be the Exerzierplatz the only church I know
>> would be the evangelische Kirche, but this would be left of the town hall.
>> I read severeal times of a chapel, stood before Herz Jesu Kirche was
>> errected, this might be this one? Maybe the only photo? Hm.
>> All the best, Benjamin
>>
>> send by my iPhone
>>
>> > Am 19.02.2021 um 19:31 schrieb iosif vaisman <iosif.vaisman_at_gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Hi Benjamin,
>> >
>> > you correctly identified the Holy Spirit Cathedral dome and the
>> > Rathaus, but the shooting location and shooting vector are different.
>> > The photo is taken on the cavalry training ground (Exerzier Platz) on
>> > Mühlsteg (modern Kievskaya), right behind the Schiller Park. Two
>> > buildings on the right are cavalry barracks (still exist in a
>> > semi-ruined state, they were abandoned in 1991 and not used since
>> > then). The building in the center is the Kaiser Jubiläums Volksschule
>> > on Althgasse (Lesi Ukrainki) - we see the fourth floor windows on the
>> > building's back facade. The picture is taken between 1908 and 1916.
>> >
>> > best,
>> > Iosif
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:34 AM Benjamin Grilj
>> >> <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Joe,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am pretty sure, that this photo was taken at the „Viktualienmarkt“
>> (later on Ferdinand-Platz, todays Vul. Bakrushyn) looking north at
>> Austria-Platz. With the ongoing growth of the city, the market went further
>> south and buildings were raised at this field. At the back of the photo you
>> can clearly mark out the cupola of the dome on the right side, the building
>> in the middle is the backside of the Landesverwaltung/-regierung (regional
>> government) and the tower on the left has to be the tower of the town hall.
>> The photo has therefor been taken before 1888, because of the missing third
>> floor of the Landesverwaltung. _But_ I do not know, what those small
>> building on the right might be, the bigger one might be the house at the
>> corner to Spital Gasse…
>> >>
>> >> Any other suggestions?
>> >>
>> >> Best, Benjamin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 13.02.2021 um 19:57 schrieb Joe Poras <joe.poras_at_gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Was going through old photo during this Covid time and found this. I
>> don’t know if it was in Czernowitz. Some of the soldiers are wearing face
>> masks! There are two church steeples in the background. Might you recognize
>> where this is.
>> >> My great grand uncle was captain in the 41st. In Czernowitz
>> >>
>> >> Here’s a link to potentially “41Regiment Czernowitz” in my Dropbox:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lk1lwhdpzgq2ziy/AACT-my9Vi_6Y68czqVBSLR-a?dl=0
>> >>
>> >>
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