Re: [czernowitz-l] Marriage registrations

From: Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:33:10 +0200
To: J Alexander <janet10_at_msn.com>
Reply-To: Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>


Hi,

Hi,
Right now I am sitting next to a lady who went trough getting the Romanian passport.

Her father was born in Romania. She had to get his birth certificate and after that she had to prove that she was his daughter. The last step; she was called to the Romanian consulate where she had to pledge allegiance to Romania in the Romanian language. A month later she received her citizenship. It took two and half years and 10,000 shekels. I have the phone number of the lady who helped my friend.

Arthur

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> On Nov 19, 2021, at 2:26 PM, J Alexander <janet10_at_msn.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Karin,
> My grandfather was born in Khotin Besserabia in 1909 when it was under the rule of Austria - Hungary. He left in the early 1930s. My great grandmother was deported Transnistria where she was murdered.
> I also looked into Austrian citizenship but determined obtaining Romanian citizenship by descent would be easier. Especially since the Covid virus seems to have impacted the government’s ability to respond timely to these applications. Ironic to think that my escape route from the US is through Romania.
> Let us know how you make out.
> Best,
> Janet S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Nov 19, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Karin Perrin <karin_at_karinp.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>> 
>> Hello all
>>
>> Just to add to this trail -
>> I also had a look at getting Austrian citizenship. As I live in the UK, after Brexit I also felt it would be good to have a passport for me, my daughter and grandchildren issued in a country of the EU.
>>
>> I have ancestors from the Bukovina on both sides of the family. My grandmother and relatives were in the Czernowitz ghetto. My uncle was deported to Transnistria. Many family members died in the camps. We have a document showing we were Jewish refugees, issued in Vienna after the war, including photograph of me and parents and brother – I could go on.
>>
>> Before I can even apply the amount of documentation required by the Austrian Embassy in London is astronomical – non Austrian documents have to be apostilled which can only be done in the country they were issued. For instance I would have to send the original certificates of my parent’s marriage and my birth to Romania. Even the Romanian embassy here feels that would be very risky to do so and I may never get the documents back as bureaucracy in Romania is a minefield…The Austrians ask for proof of an address in Austria before a certain date. The point I want to make is that the Austrian government does not seem to be at all helpful, possibly even obstructive, while publicizing that they are offering Austrian citizenship to victims of the holocaust and their descendants.
>>
>> Having tried to put together the documents the Austrians demand, I feel I won’t get past the first post and at this point, I am in the process of trying to get a Romanian passport for me and the family, since I was born in Romania. To my surprise the Romanian Embassy has been very helpful so far – will report back in due course if I have been successful.
>>
>> If that fails, I shall certainly try the Nationalfonds. Thank you for this contact, Benjamin.
>>
>> Best to all
>>
>> Karin
>>
>>
>> From: bounce-126096242-87608252_at_list.cornell.edu <bounce-126096242-87608252_at_list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Benjamin Grilj
>> Sent: 18 November 2021 20:02
>> To: Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>
>> Cc: RUTH GOLD <glasgold_at_bellsouth.net>; czernowitz Group via cornell server <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Marriage registrations
>>
>> Dear Ruth, Athur and all,
>> whenever you have problems with the process of getting Austrian citizenship you should contact the Nationalfunds for the Victims of NS: https://www.nationalfonds.org/unterstützung-bei-erlangung-der-österreichischen-staatsbürgerschaft
>> There excellent colleguages working there!
>>
>> Ruth, I was looking at my database, geneasearch and the index at familysearch and have not seen your parents. Were they chassidim?
>>
>> Best, Benjamin
>>
>> send by my iPhone
>>
>>
>> Am 18.11.2021 um 20:43 schrieb Arthur von Czernowitz <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>:
>>
>> Hello Ruth,
>>
>> I don’t want you to feel bad.
>> Let me tell you the story about my cousin Clary who lives in England.
>> When Brexit was voted in, Clari decided to get an Austrian passport.
>> Clari was born in Vienna and when WWII started her family run away to England. I forgot, Clari has a birth certificate which states that she was born in Vienna and she is also getting a Rente from the Austrian government.
>> She started filling out forms I believe in 2018. Till today, there is no passport, every time there is a request for an additional piece of paper. I believe Clari just gave up.
>>
>> (Both her parents were born in Czernowitz)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:59 PM, RUTH GOLD <glasgold_at_bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have applied for the Austrian citizenship, but am constantly asked for yet another document. Unfortunately, as an orphan of Transnistria, I have none.
>> The latest request is a marriage registration of my parents.
>>
>> All I know is that they married in 1922, registered in Czernowitz as Mendel Glasberg and Lea Katz Glasberg.
>>
>> Could some of you help me?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Ruth Glasberg Gold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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