Gary...
Sorry for confusion and let me try to explain it in another way: In 1930
the total population of the municipality of Cernauti (Czernowitz), i. e. the
urban population, added up to
112,427 inhabitants, out of which
42,592 (= 37.90 %) were Jews,
69,835 (= 62.10 %) were non-Jews.
The summation of the three figures (42,592 + 32,731 + 42,932) DOESN'T WORK
since these figures stand for the answer on three different questions,
raised by the interviewers:
What is your nativity? 42,592 (= 37.90 %) declared themselves being Jewish.
What is your monther tongue? 32,731 (= 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother
tongue.
What is your religion? 42,932 (= 38.20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
I do hope now, after mentioning the number of non-Jews (69,835 = 62.10 %)
explicitly, the calculation becomes much more understandable. Sorry once
again for confusion.
Edgar Hauster
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> From: grcpa1_at_gmail.com
> To: bconcept_at_hotmail.com
> CC: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:07:45 -0700
>
> 8-12-15
>
> Mr. Hauster,
>
> Thank you for your reply. However, I still cannot reconcile the 112,427
> total to your below breakdown of Jews AND non-Jews, out of which,
attention,
> multiple entries,
>
> 42,592 (= 37.90 %) were Jewish,
> 32,731 (= 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother tongue,
> 42,932 (= 38,20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
>
> I assume that by multiple entries, you are referring to the above three
> (45,592 +32,731+42,932).
>
> Can you please show me how you arrived at 112,247 (i.e. X+Y+Z+ etc. =
> 112,247)
>
> Thank you sir.
>
> Gary Rogovin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
> To: "Gary Rogovin" <grcpa1_at_gmail.com>; "alexander rosner"
> <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>; "Hardy Breier" <hardy3_at_bezeqint.net>; "Cornel
> Fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
> Cc: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>
>
> Gary...
>
> According to the "Census of Romania for the Year 1930 for the Province of
> Bukovina"
>
>
http://czernowitz.blogspot.de/2014/05/census-of-romania-for-year-1930.html
>
> the TOTAL population of the municipality of Cernauti (Czernowitz), i. e.
the
> URBAN population, was in 1930:
>
> 112,427 Jews AND non-Jews, out of which, attention, multiple entries,
>
> 42,592 (= 37.90 %) were Jewish,
> 32,731 (= 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother tongue,
> 42,932 (= 38,20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
>
> The Province of Bukovina in total was subdivided in 5 departments (URBAN
AND
> RURAL POPULATION), namely:
>
> 94,816 for the Campulung Department out of which 7,738 (= 8.20 %) were
> Jewish,
> 306,194 for the Cernauti Department out of which 51,247 (= 16.70 %) were
> Jewish,
> 160,778 for the Radauti Department out of which 11,508 (= 7.20 %) were
> Jewish,
> 169,894 for the Storojinet Department out of which 15,322 (= 9.00 %) were
> Jewish,
> 121,327 for the Suceava Department out of which 6,677 (= 5.50 %) were
> Jewish,
>
> 92,492 (= 10,80 %) were Jewish out of a total population of 853,009 for
the
> Province of Bukovina. Among the non-Jews were:
>
> 379,691 Romanians (= 44.50 %)
> 11,881 Hungarians (= 1.40 %)
> 75,533 Germans (= 8.90 %)
> 7,948 Russians (= 0.90 %)
> 236,130 Ruthenians (= 27.70 %)
> 63 Serbs, Croatians, Slovenians (less than 0.10 %)
> 133 Bulgarians (less than 0.10 %)
> 671 Czechs, Slovacs (less than 0.10 %)
> 30,580 Poles (= 3.60 %)
> 12,437 Hutsuls (= 1.50 %)
> 23 Greeks (less than 0.10 %)
> 1 Albanian (less than 0.10 %)
> 260 Armenians (less than 0.10 %)
> 49 Turks (less than 0.10 %)
> 28 Gaguz people (less than 0.10 %)
> 2,164 Gypsies (= 0.30 %)
> 2,317 others (= 0.30 %)
> 608 non declared (less than 0.10 %)
>
> These figures make clear, why many of us refer to Czernowitz as a "Jewish
> city", while the Jewish share of the population for the Bukovina in total
> was just over 10 %. I do hope these data will be helpful to you (and
others)
> and illustrate the multiethnicity of Bukovina.
>
> Edgar Hauster
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: grcpa1_at_gmail.com
>> To: alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de; bconcept_at_hotmail.com; HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET;
>> cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net
>> CC: czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:37:58 -0700
>>
>> 8-11-15
>>
>> "the total population of the municipality of Cernauti (Czernowitz)
totals
>> to
>> 112,427".
>>
>> 42,592 + 32,731 + 42,932 = 112,427 ??????
>>
>> I come up with 118,255
>>
>> Why the discrepency?
>>
>> Mr. Hauster, can you please tell me what I am missing something here?
>>
>> Gary Rogovin
>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>>
>>
>>> With the Cernauti department they surely mean judet Cernauti, which
might
>>> h=
>>> ave had a population around 300,000.120,000 for Czernowitz is
realistic,
>>> it=
>>> grew towards the end of the 60-s to 180,000 after Sadagura was
>>> included.Th=
>>> e population if the whole Bukovina must have been rather close to a
>>> million=
>>> .The oblast Chernivtsi=C2=A0had in the 60-s - 70-s a population of
about
>>> 90=
>>> 0,000 (the Bukowina part of it around 700,000).=C2=A0Alex
>>> =C2=A0
>>> Von: Edgar Hauster <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
>>> An: Czernowitz Discussion Group <czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu>=20
>>> CC: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>; Ruth Gold
>>> <glasgold_at_bellsouth.net=
>>>>; Cornel Fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; Hardy Breier
>>>><hardy3_at_bezeqin=
>>> t.net>; "longbeachlloyd_at_gmail.com" <longbeachlloyd_at_gmail.com>=20
>>> Gesendet: 18:27 Freitag, 31.Juli 2015
>>> Betreff: RE: [Cz-L] Being Rumanian/size of population of Cernauti
>>> =20
>>> Czernowitzers...
>>>
>>> Let's clarify the figures based on the Census of Romania for the Year
>>> 1930
>>> =
>>> with respect to the Cernauti (Czernowitz) Department:
>>>
>>> http://czernowitz.blogspot.de/p/census-of-romania-for-year-1930.html
>>>
>>> The total population of the Cernauti (Czernowitz) Department - i. e.
>>> URBAN
>>> =
>>> AND RURAL POPULATION - totals to 306,194, out of which
>>>
>>> 131,429 to be numbered to the urban population (Czernowitz, Cosmeni,
>>> Sadagu=
>>> ra, Zastavna)
>>> 174,765 to be numbered to the rural population (rest of Bukovina)
>>>
>>> Coming back to the urban population, the total population of the
>>> municipali=
>>> ty of Cernauti (Czernowitz) totals to 112,427, out of which
>>>
>>> 42,592 (=3D 37.90 %) were Jewish,
>>> 32,731 (=3D 29.10 %) declared Yiddish as mother tongue,
>>> 42,932 (=3D 38,20 %) declared Mozaic religion.
>>>
>>> For all other Bukovinian departments please check:
>>>
http://czernowitz.blogspot.de/2014/05/census-of-romania-for-year-1930.html
>>>
>>> Edgar Hauster=20
>>
> =
>
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