Re: [Cz-L] Czernowitz History questions

From: Anny Matar <annymatar_at_gmail.com_at_nowhere.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:46:27 +0300
To: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
Reply-To: Anny Matar <annymatar_at_gmail.com>


Lloyd asks so many questions as he never lived with us. I would like to add
one thing to your clear answer, Cornel. During the war it was mostly "pot
luck" or "fate". The decision, in our case was Popovici. He knowingly saved
us. In Britain, when Germany sent the V2 over it was pot luck whether you
were in its way walking in the street or not.
Lloyd being 65 has the privilege to have read about it, we weren't that
lucky but are here to tell our tales!
anny
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:08 PM, cornel fleming
<cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
wrote:

> Hi Lloyd! Yes ,Czernowitz was special.And I suggest if possible go and
see
> the place. There is a beautifully decorated shul built in
1926...untouched!
> The Mayor of the town at the time was Traian Popovici, A Romanian
non-Jew.
> When ordered to deport all to Transnistria he told the government that he
> could not run his town without the Jewish engineers,doctors etc...and was
> allowed to issue 20000 "Popovici Permits" which helped people to stay.
> Also,Czernowitz was Romania not Ukraine....so shootings at first..but not
> the wholesale slaughter that went on under the Germans. So...many of us
> survived...including me! Cornel
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:bounce-119497189-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Lloyd
> Marksamer
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 6:33 PM
> To: Hardy Breier
> Cc: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: Czernowitz History questions
>
>
>
> Very good answers, Hardy. Thank you.
> What I don't understand is why some Cz Jews perished in the Holocaust
while
> others were permitted to live there normally??
> Who decided who was to live and who was to die?
> Was it a matter of luck? How important they were? Who they knew? Who they
> paid off?
> I haven't heard of other Nazi occupied cities where so many Jews lived
> safely, except maybe Copenhagen.
> So Czernowitz was always special and did not suffer as badly as the
rest
> of conquered Europe. But most Jews chose not to stay there after the War.
> The Soviets were not that much better than the Nazis and their
> collaborators.
> Lloyd
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