Hi Benjamin,
the difference in the angle is because you were shooting from the ground,
and this photo is taken from a considerable height (perhaps an elevated
platform or a watchtower). The prison is obscured by the barracks in this
view. I initially was not sure that this is in Czernowitz, but a couple of
architectural details convinced me. One is an external cornice between the
first and the second floor in the barracks building (
https://goo.gl/maps/y1TxRRqmVLYniLjt9) - it is not a very common element
and can be seen in the left part of the right building. Second, is the
pyramidal roof in the back of the left wing of the Volksschule (
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/dragos_olar/22526365/65335/65335_640.jpg) -
it is on the right in the discussed photo. The overall skyline is not
controversial - other tall buildings are outside of this view.
best,
Iosif
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:11 PM Benjamin Grilj <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com>
wrote:
> Dear Iosif,
> in the first draft of my mail I wanted to give two possible places: the
> Viktualienmarkt or the Exerzierplatz. But I eliminated the second
> possibility since first the hill up the Mühlsteg is quite steep and the
> shadow underneath the horses fall to the right (looking east would make no
> Sense). Beside I - nowadays (some years ago I was there and took dozen of
> photos before I was kicked out by a soldier) - can not find an angel of
> view from the barracks to see the town hall and the Jubiläumsschule and the
> cathedral without the prison? And there is another small clocktower beneath
> the town hall. If it would be the Exerzierplatz the only church I know
> would be the evangelische Kirche, but this would be left of the town hall.
> I read severeal times of a chapel, stood before Herz Jesu Kirche was
> errected, this might be this one? Maybe the only photo? Hm.
> All the best, Benjamin
>
> send by my iPhone
>
> > Am 19.02.2021 um 19:31 schrieb iosif vaisman <iosif.vaisman_at_gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi Benjamin,
> >
> > you correctly identified the Holy Spirit Cathedral dome and the
> > Rathaus, but the shooting location and shooting vector are different.
> > The photo is taken on the cavalry training ground (Exerzier Platz) on
> > Mühlsteg (modern Kievskaya), right behind the Schiller Park. Two
> > buildings on the right are cavalry barracks (still exist in a
> > semi-ruined state, they were abandoned in 1991 and not used since
> > then). The building in the center is the Kaiser Jubiläums Volksschule
> > on Althgasse (Lesi Ukrainki) - we see the fourth floor windows on the
> > building's back facade. The picture is taken between 1908 and 1916.
> >
> > best,
> > Iosif
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:34 AM Benjamin Grilj
> >> <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Joe,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am pretty sure, that this photo was taken at the „Viktualienmarkt“
> (later on Ferdinand-Platz, todays Vul. Bakrushyn) looking north at
> Austria-Platz. With the ongoing growth of the city, the market went further
> south and buildings were raised at this field. At the back of the photo you
> can clearly mark out the cupola of the dome on the right side, the building
> in the middle is the backside of the Landesverwaltung/-regierung (regional
> government) and the tower on the left has to be the tower of the town hall.
> The photo has therefor been taken before 1888, because of the missing third
> floor of the Landesverwaltung. _But_ I do not know, what those small
> building on the right might be, the bigger one might be the house at the
> corner to Spital Gasse…
> >>
> >> Any other suggestions?
> >>
> >> Best, Benjamin
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 13.02.2021 um 19:57 schrieb Joe Poras <joe.poras_at_gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Was going through old photo during this Covid time and found this. I
> don’t know if it was in Czernowitz. Some of the soldiers are wearing face
> masks! There are two church steeples in the background. Might you recognize
> where this is.
> >> My great grand uncle was captain in the 41st. In Czernowitz
> >>
> >> Here’s a link to potentially “41Regiment Czernowitz” in my Dropbox:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lk1lwhdpzgq2ziy/AACT-my9Vi_6Y68czqVBSLR-a?dl=0
> >>
> >>
> >
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