Re: FW: Fw: a must read...brilliantly written letter....

<x-charset windows-1255> Dear Mr. Roll,
  first of all I want to thank you for your "normal" reaction to my last
e-mail and the quoted letter.
  I am so hurt at the present time by Mr Levy's second attack, that I have
decided not to write to the group for a while, at least not until I have
calmed down.
  I myself have lived in Czernowitz until my 16th year, and those were very
crucial years full of unexpected events good and bad. After the war I spent
several years on a Caribbean island before finally settling in Israel for
the last half century.

  No matter what - I consider myself a product of Czernowitz, whatever I do,
think and know has its roots in my hometown. I have even written a book
describing my childhood and youth there ("A Reason Why") which sells well in
Israel as well as in the States.

  We, here in this group, discuss our roots a lot. However, we do have our
lives which go on, and especially here in Israel, they are far from easy
lives. We never know what the end of each day will bring, and...we do
worry!!!

  I thought that if one joins a friendly group, one can occasionally say
something which is on our mind at the spur of the moment, even tell a joke,
just...climb on a soap box for a minute or two.
  Seems that I was mistaken, and if so, I again, as I did in the past, must
apologize.

  For the moment - it's time out for me.
  Lucca







  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <raanan1_at_juno.com>
  To: <amroll_at_rogers.com>
  Cc: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: FW: Fw: a must read...brilliantly written letter....


> BS"D
> Here ! Here!
> I second the motion....
> Raanan
>
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:32:56 -0500 "AMR" <amroll_at_rogers.com> writes:
> > For everybody..
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: AMR [mailto:amroll_at_rogers.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:18 PM
> > To: 'dmf123_at_ameritech.net'; 'owner-CZERNOWITZ-L_at_cornell.edu';
> > 'Bernie-Levy_at_prodigy.net'; 'lucca99_at_netvision.net.il'
> > Subject: RE: Fw: a must read...brilliantly written letter....
> >
> > All my family from my father's side were born and lived in
> > Czernowitz and
> > vicinity.
> >
> > When my father was 22 years old, during the year 1931 he left
> > Czernowitz for
> > good, leaving all his extended family behind and settled in then
> > Palestine
> > at the center of the wilderness of the Jordan Valley in Kibbutz
> > Massada.
> > There I was born.
> >
> > I have spent the first 42 years of my life serving Israel and
> > fighting for.
> > Though I am living in Toronto since then Israel is my second home as
> > was for
> > my father before me, while Czernowitz was his first home.
> >
> > Israel and Czernowitz for me are the past that pointing to our
> > future. I
> > feel much confidence that my children are having an alternative when
> > (Not
> > If.) the next holocaust will happen, 100, 500, 1000 years from now,
> > they can
> > choose their being place, they can save their families just like my
> > father
> > and mother did when accepting and settling their parents in the
> > Kibbutz
> > prior to WWII. About 75% of the family remainder was butchered by
> > the
> > Nazis.that was the difference Israel/Palestine was serving then.
> >
> > Sure this site is a Czernowitz centric and its main focus. That is
> > the
> > reason I have joined the site in the first place.
> > though, noting the names of the participants in the site, I would
> > like to
> > assume that the vast majority of the participants are Jewish, and
> > many of us
> > here or our predecessors suffered the consequences of being Jewish,
> > therefore I think that we should not loose the context, we can not
> > separate
> > Israel from our basic being, we should not forget, somewhere in the
> > back of
> > our collective mind the huge national and religious contributor and
> > a source
> > of our pride, namely Israel.
> >
> > So if from time to time (and that is the first time since I am with
> > this
> > site, November 2003) there is some mere article that serves as a
> > context
> > reminder for us, then I would not dismissed it and sure enough I
> > would like
> > to see , from time to time, such a "reminder" here again.
> >
> > Aaron Roll
> > Toronto
> > amroll_at_rogers.com
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: owner-CZERNOWITZ-L_at_cornell.edu
> > [mailto:owner-CZERNOWITZ-L_at_cornell.edu]
> > On Behalf Of Diane Freilich
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 5:39 PM
> > To: Bernie-Levy_at_prodigy.net; lucca99_at_netvision.net.il
> > Cc: czernowitz czernowitz
> > Subject: Re: Fw: a must read...brilliantly written letter....
> >
> > I agree with Bernie to keep the list focused on Bukovina.
> > Diane M. Freilich
> >
> > Bernie Levy <Bernie-Levy_at_prodigy.net> wrote:
> > Lucca,
> >
> > Although the letter from David Brodsky is a nice read, and sounds
> > factual,
> > etc., the Ms. Kates that is referred to is certainly not the
> > President of
> > Rutgers State University. According to the first few hits of my
> > Google
> > search, she is (or was) a law student and pro-Palestinian activist.
> >
> > I for one wish that this list be kept to solely Bukowina-related
> > postings.
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Bernie Levy
> > Stamford, CT USA
> >
> > On 2/9/2004 3:10 AM, Lucca Ginsburg wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Simon Sinoff <mailto:samandes_at_zahav.net.il>
> > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:01 PM
> > Subject: Fw: a must read...brilliantly written letter....
> >
> > I know that the following has nothing to do with the Bucovina or
> > Czernowitz,
> > and I was already once reprimanded that I digress...
> > However, Most of you being jewish, you are probably concerned about
> > what is
> > happening here, so I dare send you a letter which is very well
> > written and
> > expresses our feelings so well...
> > You may agree, or not, but I felt I had to share this.
> > Thanks for your attention, Lucca
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: DavidBrotsky1975_at_aol.com
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:
> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:55 AM
> > Subject: a must read...brilliantly written letter....
> >
> > The following letter was written to the President of Rutgers State
> > University
> > by an Israeli citizen after reading her published comments on the
> > on the
> > Israeli/Palestinian situation.
> >
> > [snip]
>
>
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