Re: [Cz-L] Karolinengasse (Avram Iancu) in Czernowitz

From: Berti <berti_at_netvision.net.il>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:01:54 +0300
To: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, Czernowitz Genealogy and History <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Reply-to: Berti <berti_at_netvision.net.il>

Hi Mimi.

You are definitely on the right track. Friedl Andermann lived on #5
but left too early to remember neighbors from the opposite side.
Now to the specifics of No 8b:

For such an address to exist there should have been at that time one
building with three entrances, all separately from the street.
The building could also (but that was not usually so) have had a common yard
accessible from the Karolinengasse
and be subdivided internally.

The existence of the Temple and later the Cinema could have influenced the
numbering of the houses
when Dreifaltigkeitsgasse and Karolinengasse were united, but only in the
sense that numbering started with one less or more house.

If the temple was considered formally to have been on Tempelgasse and the
Cinema now on Karolinen, we should look for No 10b instead of 8b and
if the authorities decided to give every entrance a different No the place
could now be at 14.

Best what could be done (except of course somebody of us remembering exactly
the place) would be either to find out
through the local cadaster authorities what Numbers correspond (old and
new). This information is surely available on local level.

Or at least somebody verifying if there are still "a" s and "b" s in the new
numbering. That should be feasible by just inspecting the facades. If there
are no (doubled or tripled) by letters numbers then the former 8b should be
now 12, provided the change was (and this is most probable) not influenced
by the Cinema /Temple address.

There are also some possible further complications if the corner plot
(Temple) being large had more than one No. but all this is very improbable.

Either you find a local friend to do one of these things or leave it to the
nearest visit of one of us to Cz.

All the best and courage,

Berti




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From: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:03 PM
To: "Czernowitz Genealogy and History" <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
Cc: "Simon Kreindler" <simonkreindler_at_sympatico.ca>; "Yehudit Yerushalmi"
<elhod_at_zahav.net.il>; "Rita Shilo" <grshilo_at_bezeqint.net>
Subject: [Cz-L] Karolinengasse (Avram Iancu) in Czernowitz

> Dear Czernowitzers,
>
> If any of you or your families previously lived on the Karolinengasse
> (Avram Iancu), You may be able to help me to find the correct
> house number at which Traian Popovici lived. I am interested in the
> south-east side of the street, the same side of the street on which
> the Tempel is, the side with the even numbered houses.
> I have information according to which Popovici lived in what once was
> Number 8b. I also know that the large apartment house adjacent to the
> Tempel, was once numbered #4. The house numbers have been changed
> and I am trying to determine to which old numbers the new ones correspond.
>
> If you have either old or new photographs of this part of the former
> Karolinengasse, or remember anything which might be helpful,
> please write me as soon as possible.
>
> Shabat Shalom,
>
> Mimi

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