Re: [Cz-L] former Jewish -Ukrainian relations.

Miriam (Mimi) Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>

Dr. Igel was Ober-Rabiner in the 19th century, that is when
the street plan of Czernowitz was decided on by him
and the Orthodox bishop (not sent from Austria).

The bishop who hid Jews during WW2, was obviously NOT he same bishop.



Before WW2, the leader of the Ruthenian minority, was Dr. Zalozeckyi,
considered the best physician in town, his wife was the Jewish Dr. Samet.
While these examples may not give the complete picture of Jewish-Ukrainian
relations, they certainly are part of it.

Mimi

>
> Sort,mimi, but it may well have been the Austrian archbishop sent by the
> emperor along time ago who worked with the rabbis...the czernowitz street
> layout vastly predates any w.w.2 ukrainian religious figures. cornel
>
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> To: Mike; Czernowitz
> Subject: [Cz-L] Re: Mike's letter about former Jewish -Ukrainian relations.
>
>
> Miriam (Mimi) Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
>
> In one of the books about Czernowitz I read, that the city street plan
> was designed jointly by Ober-Rabiner Igel and the Bishop of the Ukrainian
> Orthodox church. I am sorry I cannot remember his name. During world war
> two, the bishop hid Jews in his palace. Someone in Israel is working on
> getting him declared as a "righteous gentile" by Yad Va-Shem.
>
> Mimi
>
>>
>> My late father told me that he had been told by his grandfather that
>> there was a time when the non-Jews would stop and doff their caps to the
>> Cz Uber Rebbe when they passed him in the street; and in similar
>> fashion the Yiddim would stop and give a little bow to the Bishop when
>> he passed by. Happier days.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Miriam Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> Miriam (Mimi) Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
>>>
>>> Non-Jews who lived close to Jews, or worked for them,
>>> spoke fluent Yiddish, just as Jews often spoke fluent Ruthenian.
>>> It was very much a multilingual society.
>>> Helen, If you want to know whether your grandfather was Jewish,
>>> you could write to the archives in Chernivtsi and obtain a copy
>>> of his birth certificate.
>>>
>>> Birth certificates of the Austrian Period, contain information
>>> from which you might deduce the religion of your grandfather's parents.
>>>
>>> Mimi
>>>
>> -snip-
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