Re: [Cz-L] Ringplatz Poster

Hi Berti, Hi Hardy, Hi to all!
This is just to say that I agree with Berti's position in many respect: Hardy, I enjoy your messages most of the time, really. But I believe that your strong feelings against the Ukrainians in general and the local municipality go sometimes too far. I certainly can understand the feeling that Cz (the city where you and many of us grew up) has been stolen from you, that its specific atmosphere has been eradicated... In that, I'm luckier than you, because I was not yet four when I left Cz and have no personal memories of it, only what my parents told me and what I read about it in books and on our Cz-List site. Still, I believe we should all live with our present (difficult) times and keep the memory of Cz and of our families' history alive, and pass it on to our children, as much and as well as we can.
"Sayt mir gesint!" although I speak Yiddish like a goy!
Regards,
Charles


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> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Ringplatz Poster
> From: Berti <berti_at_netvision.net.il>
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:21:41 +0300
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> I generally enjoy Hardy's wit, but sometimes have to
> make an effort not to
> respond to
> his exaggerating ideas. This is one of sometimes.
>
> 1) The poster will most probably disappear some month
> after the 600
> anniversary.
>
> 2) The Shevchenko stern look is primarily in the eye of
> the beholder.
>
> 3) If not for the trade agreement - who knows, our
> great-parents might not
> have settled
> in this town 450 years later.
>
> 4) I was, I think, the first to mention on this site
> Traian Popovici, in
> relation to his bust
> being put up in Fundu Moldovei, and having known him
> personally and part of
> his family
> as good and helpful neighbors I enthusiastically endorsed
> Mimi's idea to do
> something
> similar in OUR TOWN. But if asked, with all due respect, I
> would not have
> proposed to have
> one of his authorizations put up provisionally on the
> Ringplatz. Museum
> yes, street no.
> Permanent plaque on his house - yes, temporarily mention
> in anniversary -
> no.
>
> 5) Czernowitz is not at all famous , it is known to us who
> love it and may
> be some hundreds of Germans who
> look back at its culture and also at its Jewish heritage.
> I don't know
> exactly about their feelings
> but ours are about the time of our, or our parents'
> past. No fame in that.
>
> 6) True the Ukrainians had until the middle of the last
> century played
> only a minor cultural and economic
> role in the development of the town. But look at what they
> are doing now and
> agree that it is primarily
> their right and obligo to give their festivities the
> direction they prefer.
> Everybody knows this, and I hope Hardy might agree, too.
>
> Let us all enjoy the half full glass,
>
> Berti


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