Re: [Cz-L] Gary Rogovin re popovici plaque -reply to Mr. Schaecter re "we have a good leader and I suggest we allow her to lead"

From: Abraham Kogan <>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:06:38 +0300
Reply-to: Abraham Kogan <>

I fully agree with every sentence of Garry's e-mail. We should not give in
un der any "compromising" circumstances. As I said before, perhaps Mr.
Zissels would be willing to intervene. If unsuccessful, better not to have
a plaque at all.
Best, Abraham K.
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Subject: [Cz-L] Gary Rogovin re popovici plaque -reply to Mr. Schaecter re
"we have a good leader and I suggest we allow her to lead"

> 9-22-08,
> Dear Messrs. Schaecter, Eshet and CZ List members,
> The issue is not about Miriam Taylor's leadership nor about the Popovici
> plaque itself.
> Rather, the plaque is only a vehicle of the underlying issue of censorship
> and deceit, as may possibly be perpertrated by the CZ City administration.
> Miriam had written to the List on 9/19/08 "I have been informed, that most
> likely they will not allow a Romanian inscrition. I am not sure what to
> do, if this turns out to be true. Is a plaque with a correct English text,
> a Ukranian text which refers to Popvici as leader, instead of mayor,
> better than no plaque at all? Please let me know what you think by Sept
> 23rd. I shall want to respond right away".
> She has asked the members of this list for their opinions by 9/23 and she
> has received various replies in response to that request.
> People, I say "NO", it is NOT better to capitulate than to have no plaque
> at all!
> In my opinion, we cannot allow ourselves to compromise our principles in
> order to get the CZ City administration to "approve" the Popvichi plaque.
> We cannot allow them to use the plaque as a leverage vehicle to censor the
> truth of history (Popovici was the Mayor of CZ and he was Rumanian and
> spoke that language) and make us a complicit party to that censorship and
> deceit.
> Miriam Taylor has put a tremendous amount of time and effort into the
> Popovici plaque undertaking. For her efforts, we are all grateful.
> As is human, there is the temptation to "get it over with and done'. As is
> also human, one might like to see a monument erected to themselves for
> their own hard work and effort, albeit the monument honors someone else in
> name and to experience, both individually and as a group, the wonderful
> feeling of being able to say "I am the one who is responsible for that
> monument being there".
> I hope that we will not "negotiate" away the truth in order to get a
> Popovici plaque put up in CZ. Truth is non-negotiable. It is what it is
> and cannot be changed, whether by any devise conjured up by mankind or
> otherwise.
> If the CZ administration's preference is for a distortion of history, let
> us put up the plaque elsewhere or not at all!
> I don't know why the question of whether Jews "are a governable people"
> was even raised by Mr. Schaecter. Jews are amongst the most independent,
> intelligent and intellectual of peoples. The definition of a "Jew" does
> not articulate that all Jews must think exactly alike and agree on
> everything. On the contrary. Imagine if Einstein were told by others to
> disregard the molecular structure of the atom which he envisioned in his
> mind, simply because they could not. I believe it was Hardy Breier who
> once stated on a post to the List, something like "ask 100 Jews what they
> just saw and you will get 100 different opinions". Hardy, forgive me if I
> have misquoted you in exchange for the essence of your wisdom.
> Gary Rogovin

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