[Cz-L] Re: Malvina's message; Romanian Holocaust.

From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:28:14 -0400
To: Hegma <hegma2_at_pacific.net.au>, Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
Reply-to: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>

I have recently had the opportunity to view a list of documents
which the Romanian government kept on file about the Jewish inhabitants
within its borders in the years immediately prior to WW2 and during the WW2.
There are general lists, lists of people who belonged to any Jewish
organization, lists of people who belonged to any political party, list of
those who had emigrated to Palestine and on and on. The Romanian government,
did not need the heads of Jewish communities to cooperate with them,
they already had all the information they needed.
Starting from the mid-thirties, Romania was largely a police state.

ALL Romanians DID NOT participate in the Fascist murders. Ethnic Romanians
were often also the victims of the murders, such as nominated prime minister
Calinescu. Some Romanians, such as Traian Popovici, Tit Simedrea and some
military officers, did all they could to protect the Jews in their midst.
The facts remain: The Antonescu government, many Romanian soldiers and
civilians, ordered and participated intentionally and with great cruelty,
in the murder of thousands of Jews.

The estimated number of Jews living in Romania in 1930 is 756,930
The estimated number of Jews living in Romania in 1945 is 355,972
Of the approximately 400,000 fewer Jews in 1945, it is estimated that
135,000 were those living in northern Transylvania, who were deported by
the Hungarian government to Nazi concentration camps and murdered there.
It follows that 265,000 Romanian Jews, or 35% of all Romanian Jews, were
murdered as a consequence of the actions of the Romanian government
of that period.

Mimi
  
 

On 7/12/09 9:06 AM, "Hegma" <hegma2_at_pacific.net.au> wrote:

> RE:(Mimi's post)
> Not all Romanians participated in Fascist
> murders. We survived at home in Botosani, as did
> most other Jews in the Romanian "regat",- the
> heartland of the kingdom, -thanks mainly to
> Madame Lupescu's intervention with the king. My
> maternal grandfather and aunt were not so lucky
> in Bucovina's, Ciudin.(See memorial in album
> below.)
>
> RE" To my knowledge, non of the leaders of Jewish
> communities in the countries ruled by fascist
> governments complied with these governments for
> private gain or advantage. Most of them complied
> with the orders they were given, because they saw
> no way not to. Many did all they could to
> persuade government and church officials to
> intercede on behalf of the Jewish population."
>
> There were the "Judenraht" in some places and in
> Greece, one Rabbi in Thessalonika actually handed
> over his list of Jews to the Germans because he
> couldn't believe that the "feine leute" of his
> Alma Mater could be lyng murderers. He was
> exonerated in an Israeli Court in the '50s for
> being "naïve".
>
> Only constant vigilance will help us from such a
> future Holocaust,- Jewish or other.
> See Melbourne, Australia's "Walk for Harmony"
> today, with tens of thousands of people from
> hundreds of ethnic communities saying "No to
> Racism"
>
> You are invited to view Aussiehegma's photo
> album:
> <http://picasaweb.google.com.au/lh/sredir?uname=AUSSIEHEGMA&target=ALBUM&id=53
> 57460088449861809&authkey=Gv1sRgCK3IsLiB_PzKyAE&feat=email>WALK
> FOR HARMONY in Melbourne, Australia.
> Also our 2008 photo album:
> <http://picasaweb.google.com.au/lh/sredir?uname=AUSSIEHEGMA&target=ALBUM&id=52
> 16936818524972001&authkey=Gv1sRgCNzPqLLj4dy1tAE&feat=email>To
> BUCOVINA, UKRAINE
>
> Malvina Malinek
> Melbourne., Australia
> <http://anivlam.blogspot.com>http://anivlam.blogspot.com
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