Re: [Cz-L] Willy Pragher pictures

From: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:09:12 +0300
To: grcpa_at_att.net
Reply-to: HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>

Dear Gary ,
 By placing jewish forced labor pictures on the list , it was my intention
to show pictures
 of jewish life in Czernowitz of the fateful year of 1941 from which we had
  no photographic testimony before.
   The patch on the left hand trouser escaped my attention.
    I dont understand much of tailoring but I will try to answer( If Bruce
will let it go):
  1. Round patch vs square patch : Round seams are hard to do with a
sewing-machine .
  2. Weaves are done by miniscule needle work. An invisible weave would cost
much
      more than the pants.
  3. If the pants developed a hole before 1941 ? Probably ( how can I tell
?).
  4. Social status was based on money . Always.
  5. Was it shameful to wear patched pants ? Not really - but it was no big
honor either.
     I hope I answered your questions.
 Hardy
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From: <grcpa_at_att.net>
To: "HARDY BREIER" <HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>
Cc: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Willy Pragher pictures

9-24-09

Dear Hardy,

I clearly understand your point, which is that the man in the photo had more
important things to be concerned with, such as survival from the
Rumanian/Nazi holocaust.

My question was in no way meant to lessen or denigrate that person's
concern. In fact, I was simply trying to get a better understanding, a feel
if you will, for the daily life there, more so than being confined as to
what was actually taking place there politically at the time the photo was
taken. I really paid no attention to the the fact that the photo was taken
in 1941. Patching pants was around in CZ long before even the Rumanians came
on the scene. Why a square patch rather than a round one? Is a square patch
easier to make than a round one? Why a patch at all as opposed to a weave?
Did the pants of the fellow in the picture develop a hole before 1941,
before the Nazi impetus, where perhaps he wore those pants for a time, maybe
years, before survival from the Nazi's became a concerned reality for him?
If so, was the social climate in CZ prior to 1941 based on class, i.e. how
much money a person had, such that it would be shameful to wear pants with a
patch? That is what was behind my question.

You are a very imtelligent and knowledgeable person. You have lived in CZ,
have seen and done it all. That is why I asked the question of you.

Frankly I was hoping for an answer from you that would address the question,
rather than the answer you provided.

I realize that the terrible events in Bukovina during the early 1940's has
negatively impacted the lives of hundreds of thousands of others, yourself
included, as is always evident in your writings. I wish there were a way to
ease your pain. May the Lord grant you peace, beginning with this New Year.

Best regards,
Gary Rogovin

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