Re: [Cz-L] traveling under mother's maiden name

In the case of the family history my mother related, her two sisters
already had their father's name, but "the children were all legally
adopted shortly after because, according to civil laws they were all
illegitimate."

Eytan Fichman, AIA
B.Arch., M.Arch., Ed.M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Noam Silberberg <noam.silberberg_at_gmail.com>
To: Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] traveling under mother's maiden name

Is it possible that illegitimate children would have their father's
Surname?
My grandmother's parents were also married only by a rabbi (or so we
thought) but all of their four children were called Wiegler, like
their father.

Noam.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM, <fichblue_at_aol.com> wrote:
>
> A version of this happened in my mother's (Pearl Spiegel Fichman's)
> family. Here is a selection from her memoir, Before Memories Fade, on
> the subject. She begins by discussing the births and family names of
> four of her older brothers and sisters:
>
> "After one year of married life Eli was born, in 1905. When Father
came
> to register the birth of his son at City Hall, they requested the
> marriage certificate of the parents. Since the Austrian authorities
did
> not recognize the religious marriage as officially valid, they
insisted
> on naming the baby by the mother’s maiden name. Thus, he was Elias
> Stadler, his mother’s son, father not being acknowledged.
>
> Not much attention was paid to that fact and life went on. About a
year
> and a half later Bertha (Betty) was born. Upon registration of this
> baby, the clerk accepted the fact that my parents were married and she
> was granted the name of the father - Spiegel. The same procedure
worked
> in Gertie’s case - her name was Gusta Spiegel and life went on more or
> less merrily.
>
> However, in 1910 another son was born, Bernhard. In vain did my Father
> plead with the clerk in charge of registration. That one started out
> with endless questions - whether my parents were officially married at
> City Hall; whether my Father’s parents had been officially married,
> etc. He reached the following decision: this child’s name should be
> Herzog, my Father’s mother’s maiden name. Home he went, puzzled and
> upset since both his sons did not carry his name; only his daughters
> did."
>
> This story continues. The resolution, some pages later:
>
> "Thus, my parents got married in 1919 in front of a judge, after 15
> years of married life and after the birth of six children. The
children
> were all legally adopted shortly after because, according to civil
laws
> they were all illegitimate."
>
> Eytan
>
> Eytan Fichman, AIA
> B.Arch., M.Arch., Ed.M.
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