Re: [Cz-L] RE: czernowitz-l digest: July 13, 2010

Dear All
There are differences in the stages and the dates between North Bucovina &
Bessarabia on one hand and Romania on the other hand in the process of
confiscation of private property (mostly real estate and production
facilities). In north Bucovina the confiscation (and deportations to
Siberia) started in 1940. Then the nationalized property changed hands in
1941, in 1944, and 1990 (50 years) when the present state of Ukraine was
established and much of the confiscated national property was offered for
sale in an act of change of the economic system (privatization). Therefore
it is almost impossible to turn all this process back. In Romania on the
other hand the confiscation (nationalization) of the property started
actually in 1948 (by Gheorghiu-Dej) and ended in 1985 (37 years) with the
end of the Ceaucescu regime in one stage. The new Romanian regime began
leading what is called an open economy which kept the records of the times
before 1948, and therefore it was possible to enter in the midst of the
privatization process and claim property. Even so not all the cases are as
the one described by Andy. One of my relatives who had claim on 200 hectares
and 14 houses got at the end a lot of 1000 square meters and even that after
long years of battling and turning to the Europe Union court in Strasbourg
before Romania was accepted as member to this Union.
 That's Life
  Yosef Eshet, Raanana, Israel

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Subject: [Cz-L] RE: czernowitz-l digest: July 13, 2010

Regarding the repatriation of property, even if the applicant were to opt to
move back and settle in the Ukraine, I'll bet dollars to donuts they'll find
all sorts of blocks in the process to deny the applicant the return of the
property.

All the former Communist countries of Eastern Europe, Romania included, have
set up programs to return property. I know a Romanian professor whose
father was a minister in King Carol's government. They had four or five
homes around Bucharest and Sibiu or Sinaia and by now they got them all
back. He is retired along the Mediterranean in France.

The government argued that they couldn't repatriate one of the homes because
it had been leased out as an embassy to some foreign government but his
lawyer said that was fine, they wouldn't break the lease, they will simply
take it over and collect the rent and it worked.

One can understand the problem with confiscated property in Russia in 1917
but Bucovina was 23 years later.

The Ukraine gets substantial aid from the U.S. and Canada. A good case could
be made in view of the precedent set by the other ex-Communist states that
further aid should become conditional on reform of present Ukrainian laws
which are grossly unfair.

Andy Halmay,

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