RE: [Cz-L] Rubel Gravestone translation from Cz Cememtery

The term "our Teacher the Rav" does not necessarily mean that he was indeed
a Rabbi (Rebbe), as commonly known under the Hassidic terminology . It
means that he was a very religious person, of rabbinical descent. Rabbi, or
Reb is indeed a polite name, like Mr. , in English.

The name "Haenzar" is normally not a Jewish "given name" ("Vorname"); could
be it was the family name (in the US: Last Name).

Abraham K.

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:19 PM
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Subject: [Cz-L] Rubel Gravestone translation from Cz Cememtery

I seem to be getting lucky but when the Cz group Cemetery project sent me a
picture of my gr grandfather’s gravestone (Chaim Mordechai Rubel) I had the
help of a Rabbi deciphering the name line as follows:
מורינו הרב ר חיים מרדכי
בן מורינו הרב אשר הענזר

My cousin from Israel reads this to say:
"our teacher,the rabbi Chaim Mordechai, Son of our teacher, the rabbi Asher
Haenzar" 

Does anyone read this differently? I have heard of Asher as a Hebrew name
but the second name “Haenzar” is unknown to me. Was the term “Rabbi” a
polite phrase used on graves or, does this truly mean that both were in fact
Rabbis and if so, does anyone know of a Cz Rabbi chart or a family tree for
this Rabbinical family? I read somewhere that many of the Rabbis kept such
things as a means of tracing their roots back to their biblical elders, ie.
Abraham, Jacob, etc. Is there a stone in Cz with this name?

Finally, at the point where an ancestor did not take on a last name, where
do you go as far as research?

I hope you all are not getting tired of my questions!!!I am truly blessed to
have found this group and thank each of you for your help in this journey!!

Kenneth A. Cutler, Esq
Goldman, Daszkal, Cutler, Bolton & Kirby
1630 W. Hillsboro Boulevard
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
(954) 428-9333; Fax:  (954) 428-9338

[Moderator's Note: Hebrew text may not come through properly. Ken - Can you
send the actual tombstone photo to anyone expressing an interest in helping
you? I think the name "Haenzar" ends with a Lamed, not Resh. Moderator
Bruce]

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