Re: [Cz-L] Poetry on the Herrengasse and the Jewish Museum in Chernivtsi

From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:44:39 -0400
To: fred love <fredhotman_at_yahoo.com>, cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>, HARDY BREIER <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>, Irene Silverblatt <irene.silverblatt_at_duke.edu>
Reply-to: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>

Irene, Helen, Cornel and I, describe what we have experienced in Chernivtsi
in recent years, you Fred, write about what happened more than 65 years ago.
The properties have not been returned to the Romanians who left, the Germans
who left or the Poles and Ukrainians who left Czernowitz. Not only Jews are
affected.

The Tempel should be restored by the Romanians and Germans who set it on
fire and the Soviets who blew up the dome.

Can I guarantee that there is not a single Anti-Semite in Chernivtsi? No.
But I also have not put on rosy tinted glasses, when I say that I have not
encountered a single indication of Anti-Semitism. And as I wrote before,
people I met, who knew I was Jewish, have been friendly, kind and helpful
to me. I have visited Chernivtsi, nine times in recent years and never
encountered any Anti-Semitism.

I am old enough to remember the war years and my experiences then, are not
forgotten, but the past is the past and the present is the present

The statue of the Kaiser was given to the city as a present.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no memorial to either Bandera or
Petlura in the city. If Chmielnitzki is revered, it is because he fought the
Poles, not because he killed the Jews. Insensitive, but not different from
what other countries and cities do for their national heroes.

Napoleon killed Russians and set Moscow on fire, yet the French have lots of
memorials to him.

Mimi

On 10/6/10 9:44 PM, "fred love" <fredhotman_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> In view of so many detailed information emanating from Hardy's and my
> remarks I
> feel that I stand corrected but confused by rebutals..
> A miraculous change has taken place no visible antisemismus, the various
> tokens
> of show point to the error of my thinking.
> Czernowitz of new has been purified and is devoid of any antisemitic thoughts.
> We have quickly forgoten that we in Czernowitz had a harmonious, friendly
> relationship with our other national neighbours
> yet, in the first week of lawlesness before the  army has even entered the
> city,
>
> the Jewish Quarter was first in line in the ensuing bloodbath
> and it was not the Army but the friendly neighbours. When I got bashed up, it
> was by my school friends whith whom I played and who loved my mothers cooking.
>
> In your rebutals you point out to me that most of the initiatives in restoring
> some token memento to the Jewish memories has been done
> by  Jewish individuals also the reluctance of the authorities to participate
> in
> restoring any of the Jewish properties except by token gestures.
> Antisemitismus manifest itself in many ways.Not necesarily in violence but
> could
>
> be so subtle as not to be aware of it. How is indifference.
> With the Ukrainean take over there would have been a fortune in properties
> that
> have not been redeemed by the murdered owner
> nor would any claim be recognised from any survivors. The income from these
> alone could be a fortune. I would say there would be enough to a least restore
> the Temple. There is a fallacy that small acts of token charity could restore
> a
> terrible
>
> wrong. I appreciate that the positive encounters of visiting Czernowitzers is
> been
> seen as a total change of thinking and attitude. The small plaques attached to
> a
> wall
> tarnishing in the sun is representing a vanished multitude of humanity, easily
> bypassed
>
> but representative.How sad.
> An Austrian Royalty who made one visit gets a statue erected. Banderra who
> hated
> Jews with gusto gets a memorial statue next Petlura all Ukrainean heroes.
> I am aware that we can't change a states attitude once it is in control but
> please
> I have no desire to put on rosy tinted glasses. I still have at my age vivid
> memories
> of a vanished world.
>
-snip
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