AW: AW: [Cz-L] All time record

From: alexander rosner <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:23:20 +0100 (BST)
To: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>, "Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu" <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Reply-to: alexander rosner <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>

Hello Mimi,

Yes, of course. Herrengase, Volksgarten, Cecina and sometimes also Habsburger
Höhe were places which were still frequented by the population after 1945,
Cecina mostly by the old Czernowitzers in Summer and by a lot of people in
Winter for Skiing. The Tempel building was frequently used to watch a movie, the
Theater was not interesting at that time, but Theaterplatz (Elisabethplatz) was
a little bit like Herrengasse.

I suppose Czernowitz was not the only town where the Jewish population was not
stationary. To a certain degree other polulations also moved in and out of the
town. What I called "unique" was the population mix before the WWII with
national houses of each group where they could express their interests. No
population was really dominant, neither the Romanians or Ukrainians (Ruthenen),
nor the Germans with their surely dominant language, nor the Jews with their
dominant businesses, not all the other population groups. In my opinion the
culture was unique but not distinctive. It was a cultural mix. Take for example
Merle Kastner's Bukowina Jewish Cook Book and you'll find recipes from different
surrounding countries, sometimes a little renamed, all incorporated. Austrian,
Romanian, Ukrainian/Russian, Polish meals, but also from other countries were
normal in Czernowitz. I remember my Grandma or her friends preparing those
meals. Some traditions survived WWII. For instance, as far as I know the only
factory in the Soviet Union to produce Halwa was in Czernowitz, a food
introduced in the Bukowina by the Turks.

I remember my parents and grandparents speaking about old times and presenting
Czernowitz as a town of Central European life stile in eastern Europe, about all
the consulates of different countries and the uniformed service men who's
services were used to collect all required visa for travel. All that was very
different from my Soviet era childhood experiences, where it was almost
impossible to cross the border.

To some extent the "uniqueness" was sustained into the Soviet era, as one could
still here German talk on the streets or see people who spoke Russian with a
strong accent, like my parents, or barely spoke Russian, like my Grandparents.

Maybe others will have different thoughts about this topic.

Alex

----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
> Von: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
> An: alexander rosner <alexanderrosner_at_yahoo.de>; HARDY BREIER
><HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>; Merle Kastner <merlek_at_videotron.ca>;
>"Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu" <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 19. Oktober 2010, 13:52:23 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Cz-L] All time record
>
> Hello Alex,
>
> If we all were still living in Czernowitz, chances are that we would have
> known each other, might have been neighbors, gone to the same school or even
> intermarried. We would have met at the market, in the Herrengasse, the
> Volksgarten, der Tempel, the theatre or in Cecina.
>
> We would not have formed this list, because there would have been no need to
>
> But the Jewish population of Czernowitz was never stationary, not even
> before 1938. Many Jewish families were poor and moving to America, was one
> way to improve their economic situation. Many Czernowitzer Jews left in the
> 1920ies because of the discrimination against Jews by the Romanian
> government. I doubt whether any Jew obtained a law or medicine degree in
> Czernowitz during that period. But many Jews moved to the city from the
> surrounding villages and small towns, as well as from Basarabia, Poland and
> part of Romania included in the old kingdom.
>
> I believe that most of us think of Czernowitz as having had a "unique
> cultural tradition", but we probably have different things in mind as to
> what we mean by this. I think it would be interesting to have a discussion
> on this topic. Would you Alexander and other members of the list, like to
> tell us, what they think about the cultural tradition of Czernowitz?
>
> Mimi
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