RE: The [Cz-L] and The WOBJ / World Organization of the Bukovina Jews

From: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:09:08 +0000
To: 'Arthur von Czernowitz' <vonczernowitz_at_yahoo.com>, 'Czernowitz Genealogy and History' <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>, 'Charles Rosner' <frenchczern1_at_yahoo.com>
Reply-to: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>

Arthur..quitting would be a major mistake.I think you working with Yochanan should help to get the place back to basics..ie Bukowina issues and stopping reprinting stories from the national papers that are irrelevant to our Jews! Charles means well I am sure but to my mind he is being a bit over the top! (sorry Charles!) .I suspect the whole list is backing you ...so stick with it!!!! Cornel

-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-7332474-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-7332474-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Arthur von Czernowitz
Sent: 12 November 2010 19:51
To: Czernowitz Genealogy and History; Charles Rosner
Subject: Re: The [Cz-L] and The WOBJ / World Organization of the Bukovina Jews

Dear Charles,
After reading your e-mail started to worry did I do the right thing to volunteer. Please let me know on what issues should I be on guard for? and what should I look out for.
I have only worked there 2 days, so you recommend that I should quit?

Please let me know.

Arthur

--- On Fri, 11/12/10, Charles Rosner <frenchczern1_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Charles Rosner <frenchczern1_at_yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: The [Cz-L] and The WOBJ / World Organization of the Bukovina Jews
> To: "Czernowitz Genealogy and History" <czernowitz-l_at_list.cornell.edu>
> Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 10:00 AM
> Hello everyone!
> Let me contribute with a little dissonant point of view
> about the connection with WOBJ.
> I have nothing against Die Stimme – my late mother also
> received it on a monthly basis in Paris, and it happened
> more than once that I read an article or another to which
> she had drawn my attention. It’s a good thing that “one
> of us” will be able to connect on both sides:
> congratulations Arthur!
> But, in respect of WOBJ, my reaction can be summarized in
> the word “Beware!”
> I consider our group, the Cz-List, as completely free,
> tolerant and open-minded – even with a (good) moderator
> who is always right, as he just makes sure we continue to
> behave as “Menschen” and keep our discussions on what we
> have in common.
> I believe that the Cz-List is not earmarked by any
> extremist political or religious issue. Of course, its
> members have different life experiences and opinions, the
> only common element being that they all have roots in
> Czernowitz/Sadagura – say Bukowina : each of us can accept
> that another member feels and reacts differently, as long as
> this other does not try to force on him/her his own ways in
> a direct or indirect manner.
> For example: I love most of Hardy’s mails, I like him a
> lot and I know he likes me. Still, I do not agree with his
> overall positioning about Ukrainians (i.e. they are all bad
> – even today!), but he doesn’t force it on me and I
> understand it is governed by specific pain and anger that he
> controls with great difficulties… And I could go on with
> many other different examples.
> My life experience tells me to beware of earmarked
> organizations in order to keep my "esprit critique" as a
> "Mensch". So far, I am not at all convinced that the WOBJ is
> as free, tolerant and open-minded as the Cz-List.
> Therefore my advice (to those who accept it): OK to
> exchange with Die Stimme and the WOBJ on a mutual beneficial
> basis, but be careful and make sure to remain an independent
> open-minded “Mensch”.
> Please, be sure that I have no intention to discuss this
> matter any further: it is just a small warning remark of
> mine and I may possibly be wrong.
> Regards,
> Charles Rosner
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