Re: [Cz-L] Kyseliv - Borivtsi - Verenchanka

This is personally very distressing. In this mass grave lie my three =
grandparents and many aunts, uncles, cousins. I put up this monument in =
2001 with the help of Rabbi Koyfmansky of Czernowitz and the then mayor =
of Kiseliv, and recorded the experience in an article, "Bukovina =
Cemeteries, Archives and Oral History" (published in Avotaynu, the =
journal of Jewish genealogy, Volume XVIII, Number 3, Winter 2002). An =
account of the July 1941 massacre of the Jews in this region, including =
in these two villages, was recorded in a factual, well-documented =
article in Ukrainian by Ivan Fostii ("Diial'nist' OUN na Bukovyni u =
1940=961941 rr.," Z arkhiviv VUChK-HPU-NKVD-KGB, 2000, no. 2=964).

During a visit in 2008, I found that the monument had been vandalized: =
the plaque in Hebrew/Yiddish was missing, the one in English was =
cracked, but the one in Ukrainian was left intact. Now I learn that all =
three plaques are gone.=20

Now that I've wiped my tears, I will do what I can to make sure that the =
image of the original monument, with all three plaques, is easily =
accessible on the Internet, beginning with 'Ehpes'. I would also like to =
see the plaques replaced, ideally by the current village administration, =
supported by public statements from the local priests. I would welcome =
advice on how to make this happen.

Pawel, thank you for bringing this deplorable development to our =
attention.

Jerome, I will send you photos and footage showing the monument in 2001.

Alti

On 2011-02-17, at 2:03 PM, Edgar Hauster wrote:

> Czernowitzers...
>=20
> Pawel Otulakowski - Pawel, thank you so much for your sense of =
teamwork! - wrote to us:
>=20
> "Hello! I am Polish man who travelled to Ukraina to find family roots. =
Some of them are in Kyseliv. This is what I find near the village - =
monument without inscriptions (photo). I heard from local people history =
of this tragedy. Germans takes all jewish people from two twin villages =
- Kyseliv and Borivtsi (Kisiel=F3w i Borowce). They find also few =
Ukrainians who for promise to take all goods from victims agree to shot =
them. But they were usual people who don't know how to kill. So they =
shoted even few times and they don't kill some persons. Germans look for =
this and have fun that ukrainians do that "unprofessionally" . Died and =
alived - all were throwed to the little water eye that was deep in this =
time. There were corn around and few people saw everything. Everybody =
knows who were murderer but they lived without any consequences. Now =
they are die. I think You have to know about this and hope that monument =
will be repaired. There is also few macevas/gravestones in Verenchanka =
(Werenczanka) cemetery (photo)."
>=20
> Read the full story at: =
http://ehpes.com/blog1/2011/02/17/kyseliv-borivtsi-verenchanka/
>=20
> First I thought it is off-topic and off-area, but on closer =
examination I learned, that it is at least not off-area, as Kyseliv, =
Borivtsi and Verenchanka belong to the Czernowitz region and the Kitsman =
district. Above all, it can't be off-topic, as similar brutal massacres =
happened in the whole area and - as Jerome mentioned - "it is one of =
those horrible, believable stories that is crying out to be heard, =
regardless of where it took place."
>=20
> Pawel's report is absolutely conceivable and credible, but it's =
astonishingly enough, that it's not documented (yet), not even the =
localities are mentioned by JewishGen and/or Wikipedia. During my =
upcoming trip to Galicia and Bukowina I'll do my best to get some =
additional information on this subject.
>=20
>=20
> Edgar Hauster
> Lent - The Netherlands
>=20
> http://hauster.blogspot.com/
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