RE: [Cz-L] Visit

From: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:48:58 +0100
To: 'HARDY BREIER' <HARDY3_at_BEZEQINT.NET>, 'Sylvia de Swaan' <sylvia.deswaan_at_gmail.com>, "'Winters, Stephen'" <Stephen.Winters_at_atlantichealth.org>
Reply-to: cornel fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>

Hardy...sorry,but you are very wrong. We certainly were not shepherds from
the Alps...but then neither were most other Austrians. We regarded ourselves
as Austrian and were regarded as such by the rest of the Empire.We
volunteered for the Austrian Army..mainly to the 41st "Prinz Eugen"
Infantry..we had full citizen rights and we had elected members in the
Vienna-based Austrian government.Accent-free is utterly irrelevant..go to
today's Austria and listen to the many regional accents! And finally..under
Franz Joseph we were not foreigners,but we did become such under the
Romanian rule. Cornel

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[mailto:bounce-21889684-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of HARDY BREIER
Sent: 26 April 2011 05:28
To: Sylvia de Swaan; Winters, Stephen
Cc: CZERNOWITZ-L
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Visit

Austrians we were not. As much as we wanted to be.
  We were not yodeling beer guzzling shepherds from the Steyermark.
    Instead we were caftan- wearing cholent- eaters of the Carpaths.
      Citizenship was a document you achieved somehow and a
  matter of convenience.
        This did not make you a national.
   How accent- free you spoke the language of the reigning power
  is irrelevant. You were a foreigner even in this far away beech land.
    So next time when somebody asks you what you are you just
   ask him :" Do you know Josef Schmidt ?"
    "No" is the obvious answer.
 " He was a famous singer " from
    where I come from.
    " And Schiller do you know?"
      " Is he also one of your co-patriots ?
   " No , he was a poet very famous and we knew all his poems !"
   " So,so "says the man " why didnt you say so from the beginning ?"
   This will explain everything ,

Hardy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvia de Swaan" <sylvia.deswaan_at_gmail.com>
To: "Winters, Stephen" <Stephen.Winters_at_atlantichealth.org>
Cc: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Visit

Identities: In 2000 when I was on a three months artist residency in
Vienna, almost invariably when I told people that I was born in
Czernowitz, the reply was, Oh, but your one of us, you're Austrian. I
who all my life had told people that I was born in Romania, had to
make an identity adjustment when I traveled to CZ the first time in
'96...now I'm less sure what to say...though it's rarely a one word
answer, On my U.S, passport it continues to say Romania

best
Sylvia
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