Re: [Cz-L] Another suggested inscription for the memorial

Dear Mimi

Again I admire your initiatives regarding the setting up of a memorial.
We had two periods of getto. The initial where everyone was confined
to the Jewish quarter and soon most were allowed to return home. The
second period was the enclosure endind at the Mehlplatz which again
after the numerous deportation the fences were taken down and it
allowed free movement.
I find it disconcerting to read apologetic excuses about the murders
in and around Czernowitzer. That they were or were not commited
by neighbours or villagers. In spite of a lot of testimonials the contrary.
The cringing in some people prevails. Do not hurt the antisemites feeling.
Be in denial mine is an authoritative edict. Ah,ah Schlarafenland.
Regarding the memorial another option could be Ël Muley Rachamim in
Hebrew, English, Ukrainean,Roumanian and German that may cover all the
Jews murdered on Kidush Hashem.
Fred Weisinger

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From: Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
To: Cornel Fleming <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>; CZERNOWITZ-L <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2011 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Another suggested inscription for the memorial

In reply to Cornel:

I am not aware that some Jewish people were not made to stay in the ghetto.
Could you, or anyone else provide me with source material or an explanation?

I know that my father's cousin, Manfred Reifer, previously a delegate to the
Romanian Parliament, later on during the war, was in a privileged position
and was able to get letters and food packages delivered to Transnistria, but
do not know whether he was forced to stay in the ghetto.

As to "murdered by their local neighbors":
The truth is that in many villages in the vicinity of Czernowitz, such as
Banila pe Ceremus, Stanestii de sus and Stanesti de jos, the murder of Jews
was carried out by Ukrainian and Romanian local inhabitants.
I am aware that my suggested wording may prevent the memorial from being
erected, but if this memorial is to be to those Jewish people murdered in
Czernowitz AND VICINITY, should we not tell the truth and the WHOLE TRUTH?
Would writing and "by local collaborators" be better than "by their local
neighbors"?
 
Saying "many thousands", in my opinion, does not convey the enormity of the
evil which was done and is too vague.

We could not mention the murders committed outside of Czernowitz, would this
be the right thing to do?

Please, more members of the list, write us your opinion.

Mimi

On 6/30/11 6:43 AM, "cornel fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net> wrote:

> Mimi...Firstly,not everybody went to the ghetto.  Secondly," By their local
> neighbours " is going to annoy the people who are doing this memorial...and
> I do not know of any Czernowitzers being murdered by their neighbours. We
> cannot use definitive numbers because there are no definitive records..just
> saying " many thousands" would fit better.    Cornel
>
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