Re: [Cz-L] Rescue Operation of Czernowitz Jews - A Joint Venture

In answer to Jerome:

The Google translation is quite bad, so I will translate what I wrote
in German into English:
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Thank you Edgar for the article, but I am completely unconvinced. How is it
that
none of us Czernowitzers ever heard of this great friend of the Jews?
He was a member of the NSDAP, he did not help any Jews in his own country.

And if he had that much influence on Antonescu, why were the Popovici
permits
declared not valid and had to be exchanged for Calotescu permits? And not
everyone who had a Popovici permit, received a Calotescu one.

Popovici mentions Schellhorn in his memoirs, which he wrote much earlier
than
Schellhorn wrote his and he described their meeting with Calotescu quite
differently.

In Hebrew they say: "Aschrey ha-maamin" (Lucky the believer). Unfortunately,
I am not gullible and the motives behind this article, to me seem suspect.
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To this I want to add, that I will look for the memoirs of Popovici and
translate exactly what he wrote about that meeting with Calotescu at which
Schellhorn was present. As far as I remember, Popovici was initially allowed
to hand out 1500 permits then 14900, but he handed out over 19000.

As to Dr. Cremer's article:
Since when is the evidence of one person telling about his own good deeds,
more valid than the evidence of another person claiming that the good deeds
were done by himself?

Furthermore, Popovici was a "known quantity" to the Jews of Czernowitz and
no one ever said a bad word about him, while Schellhorn is not mentioned
by anyone.
Until a few years ago, all I knew about Popovici, was what I heard about him
as a child in wartime Czernowitz, before he wrote his memoirs.
Which to me proves that the good opinion Jewish people in Czernowitz had of
him, was based on their own knowledge and not on his memoirs.

Mimi

On 12/23/11 12:15 AM, "jerome schatten" <romers_at_shaw.ca> wrote:

> I'm not sure why English was insufficient Mimi... but here's a Google
> translation of your post for the rest of us:
>
> Thank you Edgar for the article, but I'm not entirely convinced.
> How is it that none of us ever heard of this great Czernowitz
> Has heard a friend of the Jews?
> He was a member of the NSDAP. He helped a Jew in his own country.
>
> And when he had so much impact on Antonescu, why were
> Popovici declared the licenses invalid and had to Calotescu
> Tickets may not be redeemed? And not every one Popovici
> Badge, had received a Calotescu card.
>
> Popovici Schellhorn mentions in his memoirs that he was much earlier
> than Schelhorn, and wrote his own memoirs, he described the encounter
> Calotescu with quite different.
>
> In Hebrew we say: "ha-Aschrey Maamin" (Blessed is the believer's).
> Unfortunately I am not at all easy-believe and the reasons for this
> Articles are also suspicious to me.
>
> All the best,
> Mimi
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 23:26 -0500, Miriam Taylor wrote:
>> Those of you who do not read German, please forgive me,
>> but after reading the article by Dr. Hartwig Cremer, I have
>> to write to those who do read German, in German:
>>
>> Danke Edgar für den Artikel, aber ich bin ganz und gar nicht überzeugt.
>> Wie kommt es, dass keiner von uns Czernowitzer jemals von diesem großen
>> Freund der Juden gehört hat?
>> Er war Mitglied der NSDAP. Er half keinen Juden in seinem eigenem Land.
>>
>> Und wenn er so viel Einfluss auf Antonescu hatte, warum wurden
>> die Popovici Erlaubnisse als nicht gültig erklärt und mussten für Calotescu
>> Ausweise eingetauscht werden? Und nicht jeder der einen Popovici
>> Ausweis hatte, bekam einen Calotescu Ausweis.
>>
>> Popovici erwähnt Schellhorn in seinen Erinnerungen, die er viel früher als
>> Schelhorn, seine eigene Erinnerungen schrieb und er schilderte die Begegnung
>> mit Calotescu ganz anders.
>>
>> Auf Hebräisch sagt man: "Aschrey ha-maamin" (Glücklich ist der Gläubige).
>> Leider bin ich überhaupt nicht leicht-gläubig und die Gründe für diesen
>> Artikel sind mir auch verdächtig.
>>
>> Alles Gute,
>>
>> Mimi
>
>
Received on 2011-12-24 07:47:43