Re: [Cz-L] FW: Romanian records - availability

Cetatea Neamt ( Fortress Neamt) is in Targu Neamt some 70 km north
 of Piatra Neamt and was one of Stefan cel Mare's bastions.
  Long before that, in 1230-40 was here a Teutonic Order stronghold on
  the way of the Eastern crusades coming down from Lithuania.
    The Teutons were Germans and in the local lingo Nemti.
     They called the bastion" Rock of the Germans " and in
      local - Piatra Nemtilor.
      There is very little documentation to substantiate this theory
      but is as close as you can get.
      I have not heard "nemetic" in Slav languages but "Nemtsy"
      is Germans and nemetsky- the language.
       With this I rest my case.
Hardy
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From: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept_at_hotmail.com>
To: "Bruce Reisch" <bruce.reisch_at_cornell.edu>
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<HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>; "Taylor Miriam" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>; "Kastner
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] FW: Romanian records - availability

Cornel et al...

I'd like to emphasize Bruce's statement and to encourage you and everyone,
not to abandon the Bacau research at an - too - early stage. In addition to
the weblinks indicated by Bruce, we learn from the Romanian National
Archives, Bacau branch,

http://www.arhivelenationale.ro/index.php?lan=0&jud=78

and from their inventory, items 105, 106, 107 on page 3, available for
download as pdf document

http://www.arhivelenationale.ro/images/custom/image/Pdf-uri/DJAN-uri/DJAN_Bacau_fonduri_si_colectii_date_in_cercetare.pdf

that the civil records are available at the archives for the period of time
1865 - 1919.

And, of course, Hardy is right, neither Bacau nor Piatra Neamt were ever
part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, the German settlement history in
Romania was bounded on the east by the Carpathians. "Neamt", a common
geographical ending in this area, doesn't mean "German", but "quiet" from
the slavic "nemetic". On the other hand, Bacau an Piatra Neamt had an
important Jewish population until the 1930s (ca. 25 %), so, it was hardly
surprising to hear German in bygone days.

Warmest wishes to all of you!

Edgar Hauster
Lent/The Netherlands

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