Re: [Cz-L] Our origin

You are so right Yossi.
It is a complicated puzzle, but quite fascinating.

Shabbat Shalom
Merle

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From: "Yossi Yagur" <yagury_at_netvision.net.il>
To: <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: [Cz-L] Our origin

> Hi,
> Just to emphasize facts already noted by other list members:
> 1. Family tales related both to my paternal and maternal ancestors,
> JURGRAU
> and HASS, say that they lived in Galicia before arriving into Bukovina in
> the beginning of the 18th century.
> 2. Both families claim to have roots in Spain.
> 3. Both families use the "Sephard" Jewish prayers form, and not the
> "Aschkenaz" one, but this may be also because the "Hassidim" adopted this
> form.
> 4. Although none of us is tall, blond and Blue-eyed - we all look like
> "Aschkenasies".
> So, what is the conclusion?
> When the Spanish-Empire Jews were forced to convert or leave Spain, a
> large
> portion of them took a route that gradually brought them to eastern
> Europe.
> During the generations, inter-community marriages softened the differences
> (not to forget unavoidable non-Jewish blood...).
> Finding the origins of a community, if possible to define such, may appear
> to be difficult, if not impossible. All prior posts related to individuals
> that lived in the past, having no specific significance except being the
> "tree root" as known to the poster.
> Extrapolation of information from singles to communities is hazardous.
> Take
> for example the following non-common situation: One of the Jurgrau family
> members was born in Kananetz-Podolsk in 1854. He was married in Grosny on
> 1880. His wife was born in Grosny. Their first son was born in Grosny on
> 1882, but the only additional child I'm aware of was born in 1896 in the
> USA! Later on these parents lived in Rostow-Sur-Don, meaning they've left
> the USA and came back to Eastern-Europe.
> To my humble opinion, assuming that such migrations were common for
> significant part of the Jewish people - it may be impossible to find out
> "The origin of the Bukovinian Jewry".
> Shabbat Shalom
> Yossi Yagur
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