Re: [Cz-L] Resilience

All this is gone now.
  What is interesting today is what language do the remaining 1500
    or so speak ?
  Have any of our frequent visitors to Cz seen or spoken to those?
   About their future, life , thoughts ,sentiments ?
    In 2006 Dr Bursuc arranged a meeting with some of those
   and I sat with a couple of elderly Jews and the man told us his story.
    The wife, his second , was Russian.
    He said she was a Saint..
     I will not repeat here all the rest.
       A bloody tale. Of long knives. Made in Czernowitz.
        I will spare you this.
Hardy

----- Original Message -----
From: "cornel fleming" <cornel.fleming_at_virgin.net>
To: "'Miriam Taylor'" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>; "'Jacob Greenberg'"
<grs_software_at_bigpond.com>
Cc: "'CZERNOWITZ-L'" <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>; "'Gerhard Schreiber'"
<GERHARDRODICA_at_aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Cz-L] Resilience

> When I and friends drove to Czernowitz,then Soviet,in 1964,I met
> German-speaking Jews. And the most interesting was the comment I got from
> some,when asked why German "Aber,wir sind doch Oesterreicher!" But we
> are
> Austrians! And this was a long time after 1918.and I am sure some were
> born
> during the Romanian time. Cornel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-72650064-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-72650064-8441035_at_list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Miriam
> Taylor
> Sent: 02 February 2013 16:58
> To: Jacob Greenberg
> Cc: CZERNOWITZ-L; Gerhard Schreiber
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Resilience
>
> Serah,
>
> No one knows exactly how many of the old-time Jewish residents
> of Chernivtsi left in 1945-1946 and how many stayed,
> but there is no question that the majority left.
> Before WW2, half of the population of Czernowitz was Jewish,
> about 50 000 people.
> After the war, I estimate that this number was reduced to
> about 30 000. Of these, many left illegally in 1944 and 1945.
> 12 000 left in the summer of 1945 and a somewhat smaller number
> in 1946.
> Of the old-time Czernowitzers, I estimate that at the most 10 000
> remained there during the Soviet period. Jews from other areas
> of the Soviet empire moved to Czernowitz.
> The new Czernowitzer Jews had a different cultural background.
>
> Gerhard Schreiber, is right about the lack of freedom and security,
> Jews faced under Soviet rule and the reasons why most
> of the old-time Czernowitzers left the "Communist paradise".
> I imagine that those who stayed had good reasons for doing so.
> What I object to, are your assertions that life under the Soviets
> was not so bad and that the old Czernowitzers lacked resilience.
>
> I am sure, that growing up in Czernowitz during Soviet times,
> you still heard German, we old Czernowitzers very stubbornly
> keep on speaking German. Even though German stopped being
> the official language of Czernowitz 19 years before I was born,
> with old-time Czernowitzers, I still speak German.
> Not only do we speak German, but our frame of reference
> includes both German and Jewish-German poets, authors and publicists.
> It is safe to say that of the Jewish authors of the second half of
> the 19th century
> and the first half of the 20th, most wrote in German; Jakob Wasserman
> Franz Werfel, Lion Feuchtwanger, Stefan Zweig, Arnold Zweig, Franz
> Kafka,
> Wolfgang Hildesheimer, Walter Benjamin, Kurt Tucholski. Else Lasker-
> Schuler.
>
> Bruce Reisch, our long suffering moderator (to the immoderate),
> has already addressed the reason for the scarcity of materials
> about the soviet period on the EHPES site, no need for me to say more.
>
> Mimi
>
>

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