RE: [Cz-L] A Sunken Treasure of Czernowitz

Hardy and all... Thank you all for your very kind appreciation. As a matter of fact, the census sheets provide even more information than the civil records, i. e.: - names (surnemes, forenames, titles [of nobility]) - relationship (degree of relationship to the occupant) - sex - dates of birth - places of birth - rights of residence (places of origin) - religion - civil status - common language - regular occupation (description, position) - secondary occupation (description, position) - houseowning, landowning - literacy level (reading and writing, just reading, none) - disabilities (blind, deaf-dumb, idiotic, cretin [!?]) - residence - remarks That's a wealth of thrilling data and so - as long as these data are not yet public - my advice to all, who are visiting the Regional Archives of Czernowitz, would be: DON'T RESTRAIN YOUR RESEARCH TO THE CIVIL RECORDS ONLY, BUT ASK EXPRESSLY FOR THE CENSUS PRIMARY DATA! Warmest wishes as always! Edgar Hauster • MacBook Lent • The Netherlands ---------------------------------------- > From: HARDY3@BEZEQINT.NET > To: bconcept@hotmail.com; czernowitz-l@cornell.edu > CC: vn18533@netvision.net.il; bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu; romers@shaw.ca; merlek@videotron.ca > Subject: Re: [Cz-L] A Sunken Treasure of Czernowitz > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:53:56 +0300 > > Dear Edgar , many many thanks. > This document brings back history. > We can learn a lot from this. > Take the title alone: Anzeigezettel fur Personen und wichtigsten hauslichen > Nutzthiere. > Census sheet for persons and most important house livestock. > Meaning horses ,cattle, poultry, cats and dogs and other house animals. > 1890. > Hardy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edgar Hauster" <bconcept@hotmail.com> > To: "Czernowitz Discussion Group" <czernowitz-l@cornell.edu> > Cc: "Eliezer Schaffer" <vn18533@netvision.net.il>; "Bruce Reisch" > <bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu>; "Jerome Schatten" <romers@shaw.ca>; "Merle > Kastner" <merlek@videotron.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:42 PM > Subject: [Cz-L] A Sunken Treasure of Czernowitz > > > Czernowitzers... > > On September 1st of last year I got an outstanding birthday present, i. e. a > mail from my friend Dragos Olaru, an outstanding researcher and archivist > from Czernowitz: > > "Nearly all primary data to the censuses effected for the CITY OF CZERNOWITZ > during the Austrian period for the years 1869/70, 1880/81, 1890/91 and some > of them for the year 1900 are deposited in our archives. I knew before about > their existence, but thanks to Eli [Eliezer Schaffer] I examined several > files and realized that these primary data are hiding a real treasure: the > names of all persons registered house by house including the dates of birth, > the localities where they came from coming to Czernowitz, their professions, > the degree of relationship among themselves, etc. The first censuses were > effected by house numbers, the last ones by streets [and house numbers...]." > > Just a short seemingly trivial notice, but in fact A GENEALOGICAL > BREAKTHROUGH, made possible by the priceless persistence of Eliezer Schaffer > from Haifa and by the thoughtful cooperativeness of Dragos Olaru. Just > imagine, at the end of the day you will be able > > • to track the migration movement of your family, > • to interchange house numbers with streets [+ house numbers] and much, much > more. > > We spent months to crosscheck this find, but now, in order to give an > insight into these data to all of you, I'm publishing one of "my" > census-return forms both on my Blog and in parallel on our ehpes.com Blog: > > http://hauster.blogspot.de/2013/04/a-sunken-treasure-of-czernowitz.html > http://ehpes.com/blog1/2013/04/09/a-sunken-treasure-of-czernowitz/ > > The document is dated January 3rd, 1891, displaying my great-grandparents > Isak Hauster and Chane Jente Silber as well as four of their children, among > them my grandfather Elias Hauster. > > Well, dear friends, we have located A SUNKEN TREASURE OF CZERNOWITZ, but how > to recover it, individually or collectively? I don't know yet, but stand on > me, I'm working on this subject! > > Enjoy the discovery and the possible future effects on your genealogical > researches! > > > > Edgar Hauster • MacBook > Lent • The Netherlands > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject > of > Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions > expressed > in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not > necessarily > the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members > or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has > an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a > searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. 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Received on 2013-04-09 23:45:00