RE: [Cz-L] Let your eyes...

Berti...

Thank you a thousand times for your outstanding essay on Paul Celan's poem "Zwiegestalt". Introducing an art work of Aloys Rump, I've posted your article to our Ehpes.com Blog

http://ehpes.com/blog1/2013/05/19/let-you-eyes/

by informing in parallel our "colleagues" from "Poemas del Rio Wang" about your sensitive interpretation:

http://riowang.blogspot.de/2013/05/there-it-is-in-so-many-places.html

I frankly confess: Although I've read your essay for several times, I have still comprehension questions, but there a are a lot less than before. Thank you once again for your contribution!
 

Edgar Hauster • MacBook
Lent • The Netherlands

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> Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 19:23:15 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Let your eyes...
> From: berti.glaubach_at_gmail.com
> To: HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net
> CC: sylvia.deswaan_at_gmail.com; bconcept_at_hotmail.com; czernowitz-l_at_cornell.edu
>
>
> About wick and canon.
>
> The blog with the pictures of:
>
> Synagogues of Khust, Shargorod, Bolekhiv.
> Palace of Tsadik Friedman of Ruzhyn in Sadhora (Czernowitz),
> Cemeteries of Bila Cerkva, Czernowitz, Medzhibozh, Bolekhiv
>
> ended with the citation of Paul Celan's poem:
>
> Lass dein Aug in der Kammer sein eine Kerze,
> den Blick einen Docht,
> lass mich blind genug sein,
> ihn zu entz=FCnden.
>
> This was translated into English:
>
> Let your eyes become a candle in the chamber,
> your glance a canon,
> let me become blind enough
> to light it.
>
>
> Some of our friends rightly protested against the use of canon instead wick
> of the German word Docht. When you take a look at the French version of the
> whole text including the poem (at the same site) you will find the usual
> translation of Docht i.e. wick and not canon. Should one conclude that the
> translator into English was simply mistaken or that he thought to have a
> reason to change the word into another so different one? We don't know from
> the site who the translator into English was, although the name of the
> author of the French translation is given. But ignoring the Docht the rest
> is very well done. So he might, and surely deserves to be given the credit
> to have had a reasonable purpose in using this poetical freedom in
> translation. The whole poem has 2 verses:
>
>
> ZWIEGESTALT (um 1954 geschrieben)
>
> Lass dein Aug in der Kammer sein eine Kerze,
> den Blick einen Docht,
> lass mich blind genug sein,
> ihn zu entz=FCnden.
>
> Nein.
> Lass anderes sein.
>
> Tritt vor dein Haus,
> schirr deinen scheckigen Traum an,
> la=DF seine Hufe reden
> zum Schnee, den du fortbliest
> vom First meiner
> Seele.
>
> Zwiegestalt is a typical Celan creation of combining German words, zwei
> (two) and Gestalt, playing on the word Zwielicht which means so much as
> twilight. Should we translate it as Doubleshape or Twigestalt or Twishape
> into English?
>
> The two shapes correspond of course to the two parts of the poem
> interrupted but also joined by the categorical:
>
> No,
> Let different be,
>
> I won't even try to translate the second part into English - no doubt that
> one reason it was not given here is the difficulty to render into another
> language the symbolism Celan creates in these lines in German. Another
> reason for not citing the whole poem is of course the relevance of the
> first part only of the poem to the pictures, the search for presence of
> those that are not anymore.
>
> The main idea of the second part is to give an active alternative to the
> passive behavior of his interlocutor by demanding of him to implement his
> colorful dreams, have the strength of a horse and wipe away any sad
> thoughts. (Here I have to admit the guilt of free interpretation and may be
> some exaggeration). It remains an open question if the poem is about two
> persons, or at least connected to another addressed person, or is a pure
> monologue with himself, like a lot of other poetry by Celan and others.
>
> Whatever the contrast between the two different verses of Celan's poem is
> meant to represent, its features are of a strict personal intention. A
> reader may find many oppositions according to his own way of reading.
> Passive/active or pessimist/optimist or internal/external or subject/object
> or static/dynamic, there is so much to chose from these few lines that open
> a vast territory of psychology or even philosophy, that one could say that
> even for reasonable associations to the text the sky is the limit. But I
> can't find any trace of an idea of murder, hate, repent, social injustice
> or collective indifference to the past. Indeed there is nothing "social" or
> "general" here in Celan that might connect to the pictures. Except may be
> blindness.
>
> The first verse is cited because of the blindness of the people now
> living. If we accept that Celan is cited here not only with the intention
> to give a nice literary strong finish to an otherwise beautiful and
> sensitive report, then only the subject of blindness can be responsible for
> this inclusion. But what sort of blindness of the locals to the past
> atrocities to a former population of the region is here intended to be
> shown? Is it at random, contingent, or in principle, a quasi conscious
> effort to get away from that past so unpleasant or even difficult to live
> with? Are they just lost in the misery of their daily life that does not
> give them the time to look back, or are they denying on purpose the past of
> the region? Accidental or lawful behavior?
>
> The translator votes for the last version and explicates it by the use of
> the word canon instead wick. True, any reader might associate by himself a
> wick to be the principal part of a candle without which all the burning and
> light giving would not take place. The wax being there only for sheltering
> and shielding it. But canon makes the connection stronger. It is both the
> guideline of ecclesiastical behavior and the meaning that was used by
> philosophers like Mills or Kant, of rule or principle of right thinking. It
> is not a matter of accidental choice, it is "the" choice you make as part
> of your reasoned behavior. We could say, not a matter of temperament but of
> character, of some people or of humanity as such. To take Celan out of
> context:
>
> Has the world become blind enough for a sufficient time in order to light
> it? Can the question : "Where are you" be answered in any positive way? We
> know that somehow there must be a candle that might give light enough to
> see the truth of the canon but for the moment we can only feel it as a gaze
> that surrounds those lost places of Galicia or Bucovina, a gaze from the
> past that looks upon the present but can't be seen.
>

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