Re: [Cz-L] Revolution 8

Let numbers speak:
Jews in Ukraine .
Numbers since independence:

      1989 487,555 ?23.1%
      2002 100,000 ?79.5%
      2010 71,500 ?28.5%
      2012 67,000 ?6.3%

Hardy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Grilj" <b.grilj_at_perspectiveast.com>
To: "Miriam Taylor" <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>
Cc: "Christian Herrmann" <cyberorange_at_gmx.de>; "HARDY BREIER"
<HARDY3_at_bezeqint.net>; "Mark Wiznitzer" <markwiznitzer_at_gmail.com>;
"CZERNOWITZ-L" <Czernowitz-L_at_cornell.edu>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Revolution 8

Dear all,

I´m sorry - but Zissels interview is naiv! And -not like Christian wrote-
Zissel do not deny anti-Semitism on maidan. He just mentions, that they made
roleplays and were not attacked and Jews are not the primary target of
Svoboda - just number six or seven.??? Normally fascists would say something
like that: no panic - you are just the sixth person i´m gonna kick out of
social life - so relax! There are enough photos from the entrance of Kiev´s
city hall: everything is staffed with pictures of Stepan Bandera (who is
reliable for the pogroms of Lemberg and Wolhynien), Swastika, SS-Runes...

I don´t know, where Josef Zissels is living - but obviously not in Ukraine.
Because otherwise he should know, that there´s a gap between police files
and real actions. If you walk through Ukrainian streets you can see
fascistic and anti-Semitic graffitis all over. But it seems, that Zissels is
overlooking big parts of right wing "politics" in Ukraine: Patriot Ukrajina,
UNA-UNSO, SNA, SBB, SS... Beside he reduces, what he calls Neo-Antisemitism,
just on the Israel-Conflict.

Best,
Benjamin

Am 31.01.2014 um 20:33 schrieb Miriam Taylor <mirtaylo_at_indiana.edu>:

> Thank you Christian for sending us this information.
> And if there is among us someone who can translate what
> Josef Zissels said, please would you translate for the rest of us?
>
> Josef Zissels is the man who founded and financed the Jewish museum
> of Czernowitz.
> We of course do not know whether he is right in what he said about
> the protesters and would like to get the opinions of less involved people.
> I still remember being told: "Tak skazal tovaresh Stalin"
> (so said comrade Stalin).
> There is no question that the protests when they started, had nothing to
> do
> with Jews, neither good nor bad, but recent attacks on religious Jews in
> the
> Ukraine, have me worried.
>
> Mimi

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