Re: [Cz-L] Revolution 8

From: Sylvia de Swaan <>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 10:42:32 -0500
Reply-To: Sylvia de Swaan <>

Hardy, I don't think I can make you love me :) have been
disdainful of everything I've ever posted here to my six week
stay in CZ - I was very actively out there - got interviewed a couple
of times for television and an article written about me and my work by
one of my photo students....and got to know everything from arty types
to street people...& everyone I encountered was kind and protective
and helpful. When I asked people (in my almost non existent Ukrainian)
where the synagogue or the Jewish cemetery, people often took my by
the hand and walked me there. My landlady was amazing - (I rented an
apartment) sometimes brought me food that her mother cooked,
accompanied me to the municipal archive and to the hard to find Billa
Street memorial & so on. ...which of course doesn't prove anything.
But I'm a photographer and I'm not afraid of people and people feel
that. So often I have found myself in cities where I don't know my way
around and perhaps speak only a few words of the language...but so far
(gott sei dank) have never been mugged & have had some pretty
interesting adventures. I know it's a platitude, but to echo the words
of Anne Frank, I believe, given a chance & when not stirred up by hate
speech, "people are (mostly) good at heart"


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:18 AM, HARDY BREIER <> wrote:
> Sylvia - can you make them love you ?
> Hardy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia de Swaan"
> <>
> Cc: "Josefine Koch" <>; "cornel fleming"
> <>; "Miriam Taylor" <>;
> "Benjamin Grilj" <>; "Christian Herrmann"
> <>; "Mark Wiznitzer" <>;
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Revolution 8
>> Hardy ....speech leads to actions...& as to the killing fields of
>> Transnistria ....I was there too - and lost most the members of my
>> family I know all about it....
>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:50 AM, HARDY BREIER <> wrote:
>>> I dont really care for verbal antisemitism, insinuations , being called
>>> names and
>>> mockery.
>>> There is no better idiom than " Jew down the price" , let them use it.
>>> The 1,500,000 of Ukraina Jews didnt die directly of any of the
>>> above.
>>> They died in manners which are hard to describe.
>>> In the killing fields , of cold , hunger without a grave .
>>> Hardy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Sylvia de Swaan
>>> To: Josefine Koch
>>> Cc: cornel fleming ; HARDY BREIER ; Miriam Taylor ; Benjamin Grilj ;
>>> Christian Herrmann ; Mark Wiznitzer ; CZERNOWITZ-L
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 3:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Cz-L] Revolution 8
>>> Dear all ...just to weigh in for a moment about whether there are any Jew
>>> haters in Ukraine - I'd say, probably - though I didn't encounter any
>>> personally in my six weeks in Cz last summer. But I don't think that
>>> there
>>> is a country in the world where all the inhabitants are squeeky clean
>>> with
>>> not a racist, anti-semitic, homo phobic or other prejudice in their
>>> hearts.
>>> The last time I was called a "dirty Jew" was on the Isle of Man by a
>>> little
>>> classmate in the school I attended - this was in the first "normal" place
>>> I'd experienced in my young life, after the turmoil and trauma of my
>>> early
>>> years of war, fear, uncertainty etc. Much later in the United States,
>>> I've a
>>> few times encountered people coming with those ingrained statements, like
>>> "I
>>> don't want to Jew you down.." by the old timer who wanted to get a
>>> discount
>>> for the stuff he was buying at my garage sale ...or the nice hip young
>>> neighbor who invited me over to dinner & having little in common, we
>>> started
>>> our conversation complaining about the landlord, to which at one point
>>> she
>>> added, "what do you want, he's a Jew.."....which left me speechless - and
>>> you know that the biggest publishing house for Nazi literature is right
>>> here
>>> in Lincoln, Nebraska, because we have "freedom of speech".... ...but we
>>> also
>>> have the Southern Poverty Law Center and other important agencies that
>>> expose "hate crimes" and help pass laws that can put people in jail for
>>> hate
>>> crimes - The dangerous thing is when such notions become state sponsored
>>> and
>>> encouraged, so we should all speak up against ingrained prejudice - &
>>> from
>>> what I read, right at the moment I might be more reluctant to publicly
>>> announce "I AM A JEW" in France than in Ukraine....
>>> best wishes, love & peace to all
>>> Sylvia

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